Featured Good versus Evil

I think we can answer that with the words of Joseph to his brothers when he said that they intended evil but the Lord meant it for good.

Man can be evil. Man can do evil. But God is powerful enough to take evil actions and intentions and use them for His glory. Could God have gotten Joseph into power in Egypt without the trials he faced? Yes, He could have. But even greater glory to Him comes from triumph.

In a more direct answer, evil can be called evil because if we called it good, there would be no triumph, and therefore no glory.

 

The intent of heart in the person undertaking it.

 

I personally believe that God does not decide for evil to occur. But since He knows it will occur, He allows it so that the triumph is even greater.

I think of Job. God didn't make the bad happen. But He allowed it for his glory.

 

Duh..........Good = agreeing with Scripture, evil= not agreeing........

 

I don't think he was talking about sin or not sin. Using Joseph again for an example, we know that what his brothers did to him was sin. The question was basically that if God made it happen, and God is good and just, how can we as men call it evil? But I think I adequately answered that. At the minimum, I expressed my opinion.

 

Motive

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God ordains that these things come to pass for the ultimate glory that will come of them and as such his motive is for his own glory and it is the highest, holiest and noblest of all motives.

 

He ordains them for his glory.

 

We both know where this is going, don't we?

This is not our first rodeo together.

It will end with you screaming at a straw man you've named after me who believes that Satan and God have the same motives or some other weirdo mess.

I'm going to say that God does not DO evil because evil is only evil because of the motive behind it.

You are going to ask where the motive came from.

I am going to say that God ordered the universe so that it would invincibly come to pass.

You're going to talk a lot about Jeffry Dahmer.

I'm going to point out that what Dahmer did does not compare to what Pilate, Herod and the Jews did when they crucified Jesus and the Bible clearly says that God ordained that that, the greatest evil of all time, should come to pass.

You're going to say without any support whatsoever that God only does that kind of thing on rare occasion for particular purposes.

I am going to point out that the Bible clearly and repeatedly says that God ordains all things.

You're going to ask a lot of "Why would God..." questions as if we could understand the thoughts of an omniscient God.

I am going to point out to you that omniscience means God knows all things including the future and that it is illogical to say that God already knows all things and that he learns as he goes at the same time.

You are going to accuse me of limiting God TO a linear view of time.

I am going to show you that you are actually the one that is limiting God because you are limiting him FROM a linear view of time.

And eventually you are going to get really angry and accuse me of equating God with Satan.

Do you really want to go through all of that again?

 

To post this in reference to God is a horrible blasphemy.

 

:tonofbricks::tonofbricks::tonofbricks:

 

So then the answer is "Yes" you do want to go through all of that again.

Suits me.

God cannot do evil but God can ordain that evil come to pass.

Evil is the privation of good just as cold and dark are the privation of warmth and light.

Warmth does not CREATE or DO cold. When removes itself from a place the RESULT is cold.