Featured Calvinist/Non-Calvinist - Where exactly am I?

Sadly for your view here - Lev 16 does not make any reference at all to "seated at the right hand of power when all is finished" - no reference to "posture" is emphasized in Lev 16 as having anything at all to do with "when the events of the Day of Atonement" are ended.

Rather the chapter of Lev 16 goes into great detail about the actual work done for accomplishing the "sin offering" and thus completed 'Atoning sacrifice" and ALSO the work of the High Priest that follows - in great detail.

Too late to start ignoring all the details in the chapter and looking for "then seated to indicate that the High Priest's ministry is ended".

In fact quite to the contrary - in the Bible the Priest-King is "SEATED" while doing His ministry.

So also in the book of Hebrews --

Originally Posted by BobRyan
Hebrews points to Christ as our High priest in heaven in both Heb 8 and 9 and He does his ministry - in heaven - seated at the right hand of the Father.

Heb 8
The New Priestly Service

8 Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a Minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected, and not man.
3 For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this One also have something to offer. 4 For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law; 5 who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” 6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.


Heb 4
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

"We HAVE a High Priest" who "IS a Minister" - not "We HAD a High Priest".


Heb 9
arnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. 11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

[FONT=&quot]Zech 6[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11[/FONT][FONT=&quot]"Take silver and gold, make an ornate crown and set it on the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 12"Then say to him, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Behold, a man whose name is Branch, for He will branch out from where He is; and He will build the temple of the LORD. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 13"Yes, it is He who will build the temple of the LORD, and He who will bear the honor and sit and rule on His throne Thus, He will be a PRIEST on His throne, and the counsel of peace will be between the two offices."' [/FONT]


Heb 8
We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a Minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle

 

As the above post shows - the Bible "details" are explicit regarding the Bible teaching about the Priest seated on His Throne as a MINISTER in the sanctuary in heaven. So also the OT example above.

By contrast Calvinism must continually offer assumption, inference, and speculation away from the clear reading of the text of scripture - and off into some land of pure imagination to make its case.

How can anyone take it seriously??

 

You do or you wouldn't be racking up more than 27,000 posts by now.

 

:laugh: Very funny.

There are one or two guys over on the "Other Denominations" section that would beg to differ on the point that all my posts have been about C/A.:type:

 

Please explain exclusivist training.

 

Sorry about that Bob. I had overlooked that.

 

Try answering my original question....."why did Samuel Rutherford make the statement that, Reprobates have exactly the same warrant to believe in Jesus Christ as do the Elect." He did not say that the Reprobate is off the hook in repenting & believing; he did not say that the Reprobate has a purpose in Gods glorification. If he had then it would put some closure to my query....but he didnt, rather he stated clear & purposefully that the Reprobate has EXACTLY THE SAME WARRANT TO BELIEVE as do the Elect. So what is the deeper meaning to that specific commentary & that is what you have not ventured to address.....probably because you dont know & cant.

And please dont give me the excuse that Rutherford was out to lunch when he said it. Rutherford had purpose to every utterance that came out of his mouth & he wasnt a dummy, rather a keen Puritan Scholar & a committed Calvinist.

Now Sinclair Ferguson (God love him) has a purpose in quoting Rutherford that I indeed do understand & he cleverly feathers this into his sermon on Legalism (that Ive attached). Have you listened to it? If for nothing else, its worth the listen or the read if you have the transcript. After I finish with ML-J "Studies in the Sermon on the Mount, I fully intend to get the book & audio on "The Marrow Of Modern Divinity" with Ferguson commentary. I find this good meat for myself to digest. Has anyone else gone into this in depth?

Are we NOT all blameworthy & should we who have been given the gift of free grace not grateful? Lloyd Jones says in his book Sermons on the Mount, "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth" --- and they alone. Once more then, we are different from the world..... He is a new man, a new creation; he belongs to an entirely different kingdom. (page 63)

But are we as Christians focusing too much of our attentions away from the Foundation of the Free Offering of the Gospel & isn't this the key issue that divides brethren (on BB & in the world) that we focus on....IE the Election Criterion, and not on the fact that Christ promises to save all who come to him in faith. Quoting John Preston in my past studies, "We preach Christ crucified & we preach Him to you", (here he did not exclude anyone) & I would sincerely hope we all (as born agains do similar):thumbs:

 

The only two things you ever overlooked was sound theology and Christian virtue.

 

Yep,you sure are continuing your self-condemnation. Upswing in the forums huh? You contradict yourself at every turn Mike.

What exactly are you --a Calvinist or non-Calvinist?

 

I am exactly a Calvinist. You are wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

So you are saying I am a non-Christian? How utterly untrue and hypocritical of you. You have said in many posts that you object to anyone judging anyone else's salvation. You have used strong language in fact objecting to that very thing in others. And as you have always pointed out --IT IS AGAINST BB RULES.

What you need to do is to follow your own advice Mike. Or find some other Forum in which you can spew your obvious hatred with like-minded folks such as yourself.

 

Still not sure what my brother P4T was alluding to but for the record let me state my beliefs clearly.

I believe in election by grace. I believe in the doctrine of original sin and man’s inability to rescue himself from his fallen state by his own freewill ability. I believe that sinners are called converted, regenerated and sanctified by the Holy Spirit and all are so regenerated and born again by the spirit of God shall never fall away. I believe sinners are justified in the sight of God only by the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ.

 

EWF,please deal with what I have posted here. Answer fully. Don't take any side-trails. I really want to know what you think. Start another thread on Sam R. and Sinclair F. if you wish. Just face up to what I have said above. And where can legalism be found in my statements?

 

Read the post oh dime a dozen English teacher. I never said you were not a Christian. That is against BB rules. Do not put words in my mouth. BB rules prevent anyone from painting a crystal clear picture of you.

 

You called me a wolf in sheep's clothing. That terminology is used in reference to someone pretending to be a Christian and savaging the flock. None of which applies to me. I put your own words in your own mouth many times because of your consistent inconsistencies.

 

A Study In Contradiction

Sat/Nep :"I do not like the term Calvinist." 10/29/13

Sat/Nep :"I have never said I was a Calvinist." 2/10/13

Sat/Nep :"First of all,I am not a Calvinist." 12/22/12

Sat/Nep :"Sorry,I am not a Calvinist." 4/4/12

Sat/Nep :"I never said I was a Calvinist." 1/2/10

Sat/Nep :"First,I never said I was a Calvinist." 12/30/09

 

You have my belief statement.....what else is necessary? #2 have you listened to the Ferguson Sermon?

 

Why is it your habit to be so evasive? Your "belief statement" did not deal with my post.

I told you to start another thread if you wanted to discuss Sinclair F. or Sam R. Please do so. Stop with your bunny trails. Deal with specifics that I made.