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Humans descended from monkeys

OldRegular

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Rail on all you want, the very simple fact is that we and primates and all organic life on this planet are all formed, made, created, engineered, composed of the same elements. The elements of the universe. A universe created by God.

The question is about the "dust" and what God created from that dust! Obviously God had a purpose in saying that man was created from the dust since nothing is said about the elements used to create other life.

Genesis 2:7. And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
 
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Aaron

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Rail on all you want, the very simple fact is that we and primates and all organic life on this planet are all formed, made, created, engineered, composed of the same elements. The elements of the universe. A universe created by God.
As OR said. We're talking about the creation of Adam from the dust of the earth.

Wrest it all you want, no matter how you slice it, the only conclusion from the Creation Narrative is that Adam was made from loose dirt, not from the flesh of a monkey. Eve was made from Adam's flesh. Not loose dirt.
 
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As OR said. We're talking about the creation of Adam from the dust of the earth.

Wrest it all you want, no matter how you slice it, the only conclusion from the Creation Narrative is that Adam was made from loose dirt, not from the flesh of a monkey. Eve was made from Adam's flesh. Not loose dirt.
I would contend that this is proven beyond a shadow of doubt in the healing of the young man blind from birth in John 9. Jesus spit on the ground, made mud, and applied it to the young man's eyes. Why? He was using original construction materials!
 

Van

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So to the monkeys we return ?

Since we do not know what raw material God used, to dogmatically claim dust, dirt, primate material, or something else is unbiblical. The Hebrew word is used for various raw materials, not exclusively dust or plaster, or animal ashes, or rubbish.

God told us we do not know! This is not rocket science.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Rubbish.

Sorry, though I disagree with him on a great many issues, Aaron has settled this argument. TNID has added to Aaron's rightful dividing of scripture.

We do what he used, because he told us.
 

quantumfaith

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Rubbish.

Sorry, though I disagree with him on a great many issues, Aaron has settled this argument. TNID has added to Aaron's rightful dividing of scripture.

We do what he used, because he told us.

Settled for you....great. I choose to believe that God created mankind out of the elements of the earth.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Settled for you....great. I choose to believe that God created mankind out of the elements of the earth.


And why would you assume I don't ?

Ground. Dust. Dirt. We come from them, we will return to them. He created a man, took one of his ribs, and made a woman. There's no room for apes, monkeys, primates, or anything else in this.
 

quantumfaith

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And why would you assume I don't ?

Ground. Dust. Dirt. We come from them, we will return to them. He created a man, took one of his ribs, and made a woman. There's no room for apes, monkeys, primates, or anything else in this.

And you see all this time, I had the impression you were trying to "poke" me regarding the discussion of dust, dirt, earth, elements etc.

Yes we disagree on evolution. So be it, I recognize that greater than 90% around the BB also disagree with me on that issue.
 

Van

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Rubbish.

Sorry, though I disagree with him on a great many issues, Aaron has settled this argument. TNID has added to Aaron's rightful dividing of scripture.

We do [know?] what he used, because he told us.

Since we do not know what raw material God used, to dogmatically claim dust, dirt, primate material, or something else is unbiblical. The Hebrew word is used for various raw materials, not exclusively dust or plaster, or animal ashes, or rubbish.

God told us we do not know! This is not rocket science.

God told us He formed man out of "plaster, debris, rubbish, a grave? These are all translations of the Greek word.

To add to scripture, to pour our own understanding into the text, when the text refers to raw materials from earth, is more than rubbish, it is bogus.
 

webdog

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Since we do not know what raw material God used, to dogmatically claim dust, dirt, primate material, or something else is unbiblical. The Hebrew word is used for various raw materials, not exclusively dust or plaster, or animal ashes, or rubbish.

God told us we do not know! This is not rocket science.

Since it is stated from dust man was formed and to dust will he return, the structure of the way dust is used must be the same.
 

Aaron

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Since we do not know what raw material God used, to dogmatically claim dust, dirt, primate material, or something else is unbiblical. The Hebrew word is used for various raw materials, not exclusively dust or plaster, or animal ashes, or rubbish.

God told us we do not know! This is not rocket science.
Again, the creation of Eve stops your mouth.
 
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