We are constantly striving to get lost persons to attend our church services to expose them to The Gospel. This is probably unprecedented but has anyone ever let unsaved people participate in the choir vocally or playing an instrument. We more then likely allready have lost people in the choir perhaps some who don't even know it. I am not advocating this at this time although I would not have a problem with it. What say you?
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Lost persons participating in music program
- Thread starter Berean
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Thousand Hills
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At my last church one of the active members had a son that was a "professional" singer. Over the past year or so he would do special music or sing with the choir when he was in town. At the last Christmas cantada he was there to pitch in, and wouldn't you know it his "buddy" was there as well to enjoy the performance.
Just my opinion, but I'd rather be a part of and/or hear a choir that even though they didn't sound the greatest were sincere in what they were doing, and were doing it for God's glory. If I wanted to watch a performance by professionals I'd go somewhere else.
What did Paul say in I Corinthians 13, and of course we would not love him if he did not first love us.
Just my opinion, but I'd rather be a part of and/or hear a choir that even though they didn't sound the greatest were sincere in what they were doing, and were doing it for God's glory. If I wanted to watch a performance by professionals I'd go somewhere else.
What did Paul say in I Corinthians 13, and of course we would not love him if he did not first love us.
I would never allow it neither would the church. Singing in the Choir or at any time is a spiritual matter. Lost people have no business there.
Yes. Broadway Baptist of Fort Worth's stance:
"Those who provide worship leadership in music should do so with a Christ-like attitude, which can best be accomplished through an active and personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The members of the choir covenant together to strive to maintain high standards of spirituality"
"Those who provide worship leadership in music should do so with a Christ-like attitude, which can best be accomplished through an active and personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The members of the choir covenant together to strive to maintain high standards of spirituality"
quantumfaith
Active Member
Our current policy, as I understand it, lost persons may play an instrument in the band, but may not sing (have a microphone). BTW, as a result, two band members have come to profess Christ in the last three years.
We've no choir but have a worship team who lead us in singing - wouldn't fit to have an unsaved person leading us.
However there are opportunities for unsaved individuals to participate in evangelism type events - our Revolutionary War Militia recruits from a broad group of people, saved and unsaved participate. This group has witnessed for Christ through their literature and encampments to a lot of folk. A few team members have even found Christ there.
Rob
However there are opportunities for unsaved individuals to participate in evangelism type events - our Revolutionary War Militia recruits from a broad group of people, saved and unsaved participate. This group has witnessed for Christ through their literature and encampments to a lot of folk. A few team members have even found Christ there.
Rob
Of course a lost person cold sing in our choir. How are we going to reach lost people if we exclude them?
If our church had followed a policy of not allowing a lost person to sing in the choir we would not have seen a brilliant young man with a masters degree in music come to Christ and become one of the most active and important layman in the church.
If our church had followed a policy of not allowing a lost person to sing in the choir we would not have seen a brilliant young man with a masters degree in music come to Christ and become one of the most active and important layman in the church.
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Not sure about the official policy at our church but we have had a musician get saved. I don't know if he had given a false profession of faith in order to get on stage or not.
So, instead of Satan sowing tares among the wheat, you just beat him to it and bring the tares in yourselves?
Right. That's some really impressive reasoning there.
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quantumfaith
Active Member
So, the mission of the church....to reach and touch the world with the Good News should be done by keeping the unsaved at arms length from the institution of the church?
Right
Not allowing the lost to participate in leading singing is not keeping them at arms length. How absurd.
Leading the singing is just as important as teaching or preaching. The lost are not spiritually minded and have no business in that position. Common sense folks.
Precisely. My church dealt with this issue in the past and it caused nothing but problems from what I've been told. I honestly don't even understand how this is a debatable issue.
It is debatable because liberals are not holding to biblical standards.
“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God." Acts 15:19
What does not circumcising gentiles have to do with the thread?
quantumfaith
Active Member
If you noticed the position of the church I attend, we have that limitation.
thisnumbersdisconnected
New Member
The issue is not the same. The church fathers in Jerusalem were talking about the requirement of circumcision being an "add-on" to faith, and faith plus nothing equals salvation.
It isn't a matter of salvation denying them the ability to participate in worship music. They have no idea what the words they are singing mean. Therefore, they shouldn't sing or play an instrument.
quantumfaith
Active Member
A very clear principle. Andy shared that in a recent message: "How Dare we".
Thanks for sharing.
Amen to that. Church was never meant for the unsaved.