Featured What Would You Do [drinking issues]?

Uh huh. Buzzed is drunk. There is no difference. Your judgment is clouded, your reaction time is inhibited, and normal social inhibitions are lossened even when buzzed. If you can't drive you are drunk. And yes years of living with it as a child and then becoming one makes me pretty darn smart where alcohol and being drunk is concerned.

 

So when I sit down on a Friday night and over the course of 3 hours drink 3 beers while watching a baseball game, do you consider me buzzed? Because I know I'm not.

Back in your drinking days, if you had 3 beers in 3 hours (no shots) would you consider yourself buzzed?

 

Getting close to drinking game territory. :laugh:

 

Uh.....I haven't said anything about any amount in any time frame.

 

Let me rephrase: How does one know they are buzzed?

 

Many, many people, millions of people, can have a beer or a glass of wine and be perfectly fit to drive. Even if they were to be pulled over and given a breathalyzer, their BAC would be well below "drunk" or even "impaired." A glass, or even two for a person my size (6'1", 185), has very little effect on reaction time, perception, and reasoning, particularly if they wait a half hour to 45 minutes before driving. Those people don't drink to get "buzzed." The drink goes well with the food and the conversation, and they are not "sinning" when drinking.

And that, RD2, is the answer back to you.

No offense, but obviously not. You seem to think you're the only one here with a a drinking past. I believe there are many on this board, including me, who used excessive amounts of alcohol to self-medicate my PTSD.

When I admitted to the disorder and agreed to have it treated adequately (by one of the few psychiatrists at the VA who actually knows what he's doing), the issue I had with alcohol went away. I still waited about 20 years, after 27 years of abstinence, before I took the risk of drinking again. It would be impossible for anyone to say I abuse alcohol today, especially given the caution I engaged before trying it again.

You refer to "buzzed" in the same way a current public service campaign uses it. What the teen/young adult anti-drinking-and-driving ad campaign is saying -- "Buzzed is drunk" -- may be an effective message that gets young, dumb irresponsible drinkers to think about it before they do it. The reality is, the message is completely false, because it implies that a single drink, or two, makes one "buzzed." That's nonsense.

"Buzzed" or "drunk" depends on a variety of factors that vary greatly from person to person, such as body weight, alcohol tolerance, total intake, and a host of factors that the ad campaign and you apparently choose to ignore. As you and others do, apparently, that everyone who drinks has an intent to "feel the buzz." Total garbage.

Facts are facts. You have opinions. There's a difference.

 

It is not illegal to drink and then drive. It is illegal to drive while impaired. In most states you are presumed to be impaired at a .08%. The reality is that some people become impaired at less and some can handle more.

The "average" person will become about a .02% - .03% from a standard drink and will neutralize about one drink per hour.

 

... and?

Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.

 

Drinking with no intent to feel anything is like smoking pot without inhaling. What is the point?

 

I'm quite sure you thought that at the time. That don't make it reality though.

 

To be honest, if you go back another century or more to the time of this country's forefathers, it was pretty much mandatory that taverns be built next to churches. There is plenty of documentation on this. They would take breaks during service and go to the tavern. The tavern was where they would go eat, where they had business meetings, etc. It was a perfectly normal thing. Just because the culture at the time introduced a shame and guilt reaction doesn't make it a bad thing. It's quite ridiculous really.

http://www.thehistorytrekker.com/tr...an-colonies-the-role-of-the-tavern-in-society

 

Are we in third grade? You're really going to be a tattletale? Pretty immature that you even thought of doing such a thing.

 

You guys keep defedning your buzz by talking as if I have said that any drinking gets you buzzed. I never said that. Neither do I hold to the idea that any drinking of alcohol is a sin. The variety of factors that play into who gets drunk is not relevant to anything I have said.

 

No I still know that. Completely awak and alert. Inhibited yes, loss fo reaction time yes. But no loss og cognative faculties.

 

So your brain is admittedly slow yet you lost no cognitive abilities. Right. Makes perfect sense. That's like saying that some really bad gasoline makes your car run slower, get worse gas mileage, sputter and stall, but it runs perfectly. Based on your excellent spelling and grammar, perhaps you are partaking right now? Looks like perfect cognitive abilities to me.

 

Oh...lol!!!! A most excellent response!!!!! :applause: :thumbs: :thumbs:

 

That, right there, is indicative of someone with a problem. Think about it.

You have insulted a friend and a member in good standing on this board. How dare you make such an insulting comment to someone you do not know? Methinks thee protesteth too much.

 

Huh? Your fellow alco-pologist's story was that taverns were quite the bad environment regardless of the booze. Which is it?