Featured NYC Policeman Not Indicted in Chokehold Death; Protests Called

Well that is the thing. I mean despite an NYPD prohibition of exactly the sort of chokehold Pantaleo used, and despite the New York City medical examiner ruling the death a homicide, they couldn't even get an indictment! This whole decision was deliberated on in less than a day. I can't even begin to describe how betrayed his family must feel. It is indefensible. Man, we're just better than this as a country.

 

If the move was illegal, I would say that out was negligent homicide rather than involuntary manslaughter.

 

Just another senseless killing.

This highlights what I said about prosecuting Officer Wilson. It simply doesn't take much to get a grand jury to say there's enough evidence to warrant an indictment and letting a jury decide the outcome.

The grand jury was privy to this officer using an illegal choke-hold and it was on video. That should have been all the evidence they needed to see for an indictment.

So why are police officers continuing to be given an out after breaking the law?

 

I got it from the second paragraph in this article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/n...land-chokehold-death-of-eric-garner.html?_r=0

 

What did he die of? There had to be a cause of death.

No mention of asphyxiation or damage to the windpipe. Something was the cause of death. What was it?

 

Hmmm...

Does make you wonder though. If he had been white, would there be such a firestorm? Protests? Etc? Would we even hear about it?

You see. In the end, it doesn't matter to me at all that he was black. What matters is that he died as the result of an illegal chokehold by a policeman. I couldn't care less what color he is.

I'd still like to know the cause of death. It had to be something. It wasn't the chokehold. It may have been something brought on by the chokehold. What was it? So far, all I've seen is guesses and suppositions.

 

There is a significant amount of difference between this case and that of Michael Brown. Though I won't belabor the point, Mr Garner was just standing there and began being harassed by police officers. He offered no resistance. He made no threats. He made no violent acts.

Then one came up from behind and put him in an illegal choke hold. He soon passed out and was left alone, without medical attention for 7 minutes. During this time Mr Garner died.

The choke hold the officer place on Mr Garner has been outlawed by the NYPD since 1993 (I believe) because it causes death.

I have little to no hope for racial reconciliation in our country right now. I also have high concern for the growing police state. This must stop today. African Americans are just as human as the rest of us. Yet they have been the victims of police brutality, targeting, shootings, and profiling that does not happen to other races.

That the grand jury refused to indict is really, really troubling. When I heard today, I had to take a few minutes of prayer to calm down. This is all very disturbing.

 

Just watched the video.

That wasn't the rear naked choke hold I've been taught and used. Not really even very close. It looked incomplete and I'm not sure how effective that would be.

Doesn't really matter, I guess, but it wasn't what I was expecting to see.

 

If it looks like a Choke Hold; talks like a Choke Hold; Smells like a Choke Hold .... it must be a choke hold! But for some reasons still not known, it was not a choke hold. :tear:

 

It was effective enough to kill him. He didn't have his legs hooked in to flatten him out but he had the arm under the chin enough to sink in the choke. That is the definition of a rear naked choke. We were taught the choke by the Gracie family in the Army back when they were certifying combatives instructors.