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Was the first man, Adam, created in the image of his creator, yet as a living soul; Created for the purpose of the Son of God, the Word, to be made flesh?

If the answer is no; Why was the first man, Adam created?

If the answer is yes; Why at the time of his creation was it necessary or would it become necessary, for the Word to be made flesh?

 

Was the first man, Adam; Created for the purpose of the Son of God, the Word, to be made flesh?

If the answer is no; Why was the first man, Adam created?

If the answer is yes; Why at the time of his creation was it necessary or would it become necessary, for the Word to be made flesh?

 

Could the Word have been made flesh, had not God created the first man, Adam in the flesh? Is this verse not the truth of the word of God?

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

 

From/before the foundation of the world the Christ, as of a lamb without spot and without blemish was going to be slain/die/shed his blood. Before Adam was created. ----- Before Adam was created the blood of the lamb was foreordained for redemption.

Redemption from what? Was there also before Adam was created something in existence which had the power of that from which redemption would be necessary.

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8 --- Did the devil and the sin of the devil, preexist Adam? What power did the devil have from which there would need of redemption? Heb. 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of (the) death, that is, the devil;

How would the Christ be able to die except something be created, subject to the death, and to bring forth the death, of which the Christ could come in the image thereof subject also to the death and through the death destroy him who had the power of the death, that is the devil?

Yeshua1 ? Would it bring glory to God to restore to life, that which the devil who had the power of death caused to suffer the death?

What was the glory Jesus prayed to be glorified with in his prayer in John 17? Is it relative to this verse? 1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Was the glory given to him through resurrection? Knowing that Christ (being) raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. Romans 6:9 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed (Christ, as of a lamb.) should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Gal 3:19 --- What promise. The hope of eternal life. That the heir of God, inherits.

 

Before the foundation of the world exactly how was the second person of the Trinity going to become flesh? Exactly what flesh and blood was he going to come as? Heb2:14 Did he come into the world in the figure of Adam? Rom 5:14 Are those children in H2:14 the children of Adam?

Was Adam not created as the vehicle of which the lamb of God, would come?

Has Adam yet to bring glory to God? What about Cain? Of course the key in Isa 43:7 is,"called by my name".

Who is that being said to in Isa 43; Is it not the very same people that this is said to in Hosea 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.

Is Isa 43 not speaking also as Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

Have they been, "born again," as in Luke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.


BTW I am trying to have a dialog and am not trying to prove anything or be irritable about anything. Just trying to put scriptures together.

 

I am saying that it appears to me that, something existed, prior to the creation of Adam that God was going to deal with by creating man in his own image though which the Son of God could be manifested to deal with the pre creation of Adam, problem, that existed.

That problem of course being Satan the devil, that old serpent who deceived Eve taken from Adam, who, through his own lust, brought forth sin, which ended in the death, that was the power (works) of the devil.

It appears to me that Adam did not fall from anything. Adam was a part of the creation subjected to futility, created carnal, sold under sin, meaning subject to the death the devil had the power thereof. The creation, from creation subjected to futility, in Hope.

God by sending his sinless Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, could then destroy the death, and him who had the power of, the death, the devil and thus redeem those to whom the devil had brought the death through the deception of the woman taken from the man who through his own lust, sinned.

Was that the plan of God before the foundation of the world?

 

I believe you followed.

he who is doing the sin, of the devil he is, because from the beginning the devil doth sin; for this was the Son of God manifested, that he may break up the works of the devil; 1 John 3:8 YLT

Did the sin of the devil pre-date the creation of Adam and is our redemption necessitated because of the works of the devil? Was Adam created relative to a purpose, in the fullness of time, for the Son of God to defeat the devil and redeem the sons of God?

Also bearing in mind,

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44 KJV

 

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Cor. 15:50

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

At that very moment could they have inherited the kingdom of God?
Would the following, have needed to take place, before inheriting the kingdom of God?

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. 1 Cor. 15:51

Would, redemption of the body, have to take place before they could have inherited the kingdom of God?