Featured Arguments Against Calvinism...

Poor little Steaver,
The problem is that it looks as if all the other people have looked at your posts and have seen the same pattern over and over.:sleeping_2:
When asked to produce scriptural arguments you retreat like a turtle in the shell:wavey:

You are just looking to cause trouble and dissention....not really looking to find truth at all. Then you want people who can and have taken a biblical stand to interact with you on this sub Christian and dishonest level and they are rejecting you like they do Van, and DHK....
I am just a neutral observer in this thread but I am sure I have my hand on the pulse of this failed thread.
If you want to get a start on this topic perhaps you could secure a copy of John Murrays Redemption Accomplished and Applied.
If you read that as a starter...come back to us when you are able to conduct adult interaction on that book......

 

steaver

here is a teachable moment for you ....We do not agree at all...yet you take it upon yourself to pronounce what you think I agree to. I do not agree at all Steaver, and you refuse to just speak for yourself.

I said the people do not like how you conduct yourself, they do not like your immature twisting of statements, so they are not going to feed into your bait and switch notions.

Cals are very familiar with all the objections , based on the wrong uses of the word All......world....foreknow.....the fall.....

Most if they are a believer for any length of time have heard the same foolish claims over and over...sub biblical philosophical, carnal reasoning against God and His word.

In the last closed thread...your hero DHK was corrected and admonished that he had no idea what he was speaking of in Jn 3.....yet he vainly persisted to oppose the truth and could not respond biblically on the topic....he never has answered that and he never will...simply because he is wrong...like you:thumbs:

You were asked to give a scriptural account of your claims, and you like DHK fail to do so. I understand...you cannot so you hide behind Calvin objections rather than give a scriptural response... You shift to historical speculation rather than scriptural truth.

:laugh:you can guess all you want, but that is not going to change anything but rather support what I am telling you right here.

get the book I suggested to you. You claim you do not need it...but you do as it will give you much needed truth . Your claim that you "have the bible" and that IS ALL you need is not holding up to well.

To claim you "have" the bible.is what all cultists make also. If you cannot glean truth from it ....YOU DO NOT HAVE IT AT ALL:laugh:

The only manmade twists and spins come when you"guess" what others say, or you re-word and add to what people say....that is why no one interaqcts with you. They want to see scripture...not bad and defective ideas that are just causing strife and division.

 

nice try clown:laugh:

 

Since the Church of Rome teaches Baptismal regeneration that statement may be the one time he was truthful, at least according to Church of Rome teaching.

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Are you asking us to defend the entire theology of calvinism proper, as calvin would have held with, or else the statements of the Grace truths found in the scriptures, TULIP, though here?

As I would NOT agree with his views on infant baptism, nor fully with all of his views....

 

Ever notice you never see steaver or Rebel on here simultaenously?

Read their posts. Eerily similiar...

 

then maybe you will have a better understanding of doctrines of grace.

 

at least Rebel identifies himself as rebellious to the faith. I can appreciate honesty. that you can at least work with.

 

Welp, I've made that accusation twice, so that makes two times both could step forward and refute me and my accusation and they haven't. Some IP address investigating is needed imo.


If this correct, both those usernames should be banned. That's a major 'no no' on here...

 

Look, you dolt, he and I are not the same person. I get so sick of this kind of crap. If you want to know that what I am saying is the truth, ask DHK. He knows who I am.

Now shut your face.

 

Well, I just refuted you in the post just before this one. Is that good enough for you? If not, I've got something else for you.

 

Rebellious to what faith? Oh, you mean the false gospel of Calvinism? Okay, guilty as charged.

 

Oooooooooh!! Internet tough guy. Well, I PM'd an admin, requesting both your IP addresses be checked. And that 'cr*p' word is quite becoming....

 

Hey, you started the accusations and lies, and made a challenge. If you can't take it, don't instigate anything. I am defending myself.

Yeah, I welcome an IP address check. I'll expect an apology from you, but I doubt you have the integrity.