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It is explained in the text: eating and drinking is placing faith in Christ's death. The problem is that seclude a portion of text and read into it what you want. You care the determiner if truth instead of Scripture.
You tell me how you apply a literal interpretation to the following passage of Scripture and I will explain the two witnesses to you!
John 6:48-59
48. I am that bread of life.
49. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
50. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
51. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
52. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
53. Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.]
57. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59. These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
So now the millennial earthly reign is the Eternal State???????:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
You really should not take Scripture out of context!
Isaiah 65:17-24
17. For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20. There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
21. And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22. They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23. They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.
24. And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25. The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
Please note what verse 17 states!
Revelation 20 verse 4, Revelation 20:4 - KJV – And I saw (5627) thrones, and they sat (5656) upon them, and judgment was given (5681) unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded (5772) for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped (5656) the beast, neither his image *, neither had received (5627) his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived (5656) and reigned (5656) with Christ a thousand years.
The Greek for Lived is "zao" "to live, breathe, be among the living (not lifeless,not DEAD)"
Isaiah 65:21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.
This too will be Kingdom but this too is high jacking the OP.
This is what your proof texting sought to deny. We see again your refusal to address the whole of anything.
Good bless.
Don't be childish. I have already responded to the OP in Post #2. You don't like what I said that is your mistake. But this is a debate forum!
And I addressed them in Post #2. The thread should have been closed then since the question was answered!
You disagree!! You disagree!! Old John Walvoord is probably rolling over in his grave.
Here is you refuting a literal Kingdom and equating it to the new heavens and new earth prophesied.
Deny it.
God bless.
I later posted I forgot to add the resurrection of the two witnesses. The Beast doesn't die revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." The beast doesn't die according to this one of the heads that a nation dies and is healed, wouldn't that be the Roman Empire that was wounded and comes back or another nation is the confederation?
Revelation 20 says that they lived with Him for 1000 years. The only exception would be the unbeliever as I stated in Isaiah 65. The believer who is a sinner at 100 will be accursed. But it doesn't record them dieing, in fact in Isaiah it says a man tills the land and enjoys the fruit and it doesn't become the property of his son or something to that effect I posted it in this OP.
misread what you saying sorry!
And if you spent moire time in study of Scripture than you do the works of men you might see why you can't answer the questions posed to you.
God bless.
You need a class in reading comprehension or you are deliberately misinterpreting the point I was making to revmac. I believe it is the latter so that means you are lying about me. When you respond to my post #2, including the Scripture from John 6 about the Last Day, and to the passage John 6:48-59 then perhaps we will have something to talk about. Beyond that closing your post with "God Bless" is beyond hypocritical!
That is false and you know it. I presented two passages of Scripture from Revelation in post #2 showing the only Resurrection that occurs in that Book.Your supposed address of the Op has been shown to be a lot of off topic huffing and puffing. You haven't even addressed some simple questions which have been posed to you in numerous threads.
Address them or I will appeal to the staff.
And that is your goal: to antagonize people into emotional responses until the thread is closed.
Address the OP or I will appeal to the staff.
I don't mind debating but you must answer the questions posed to you.
I have addressed post 2. John is not Revelation.
You believe it is the latter. Can't you ever just speak clearly? You refuted his statement by saying his proof text deals with the new heavens and earth. So clarify.
And usually its only atheists who dislike how I end my post. I won't deny being a hyopocrite, but how is that relevant. lol
Have you ever been in a thread where you didn't resort to evasion, smoke screen, and name calling?
God bless.
I asked for a literal interpretation consistent with the dispensational insistence on literal interpretation of all Scripture!. You fail! But try again. I will highlight the significant part!
Now the Roman Catholics do interpret this passage literally and get strongly condemned for doing so. I would appreciate if you would remain true to the dispensational hermeneutic in interpreting this passage!
That is false and you know it. I presented two passages of Scripture from Revelation in post #2 showing the only Resurrection that occurs in that Book.
Then appeal but stop whining because you are unable to refute what I have posted!
So stop whining and respond to my posts or appeal to the staff, whatever turns you on!
Pathetic. You imply I am an atheist and then talk about "evasion, smoke screen, and name calling?" You are unable to refute my posts and have a temper tantrum! Either that or your true nature bursts forth!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Your questions are based on the false doctrine of John Nelson Darby which he claims were given to him in a new revelation by GOD. I have shown by a single passage of Scripture {John 5:28, 29} that his doctrine of the pre-trib-'Snatching away" of the Church is false. You cannot present a single verse of Scripture showing the pre-trib-'Snatching away" of the Church is other than the machinations of that mind of John Nelson Darby while recovering from an accident. You cannot present a single passage of Scripture defending the heretical dispensational doctrine that the Church, for which Jesus Christ shed HIS blood, is an interruption or "parenthesis" in GOD's program for Israel.
So "sport" it is you who need to spend some time in Scripture. Perhaps GOD will convert you from your false doctrine of the pre-trib-'Snatching away" of the Church as HE has many others who post on this BB!
Maybe in the future you could just jump to your summation and save some of us from the runaround. How many locked threads end with this?
God bless.
Heh! Sport! I have already said this thread should have been closed after post #2 since the OP asked and I answered. Nuff Said! Saved a lot of whining from you!