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Mistaken post ... was not for this thread.

 

How about an example? After all the wickedness Israel had done in the wilderness after leaving Egypt (unbelief, disobedience, murmuring, idolatry, fornication, rebellion, etc.), and even with Balaam wanting so badly to curse Israel, God made Balaam to declare:

He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob; Neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: Jehovah his God is with him, And the shout of a king is among them. Nu 23:21
(Blessed is the man to whom, the Lord will not reckon sin. Ro 4:8)

 

Excerpt from A Set of Old School Primitive Baptist Articles of Faith

"6. We believe that sinners are justified in the sight of God only by the imputed righteousness of Christ.

2 Cor 5:21 - For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Rom 10:4 - For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."


"Since regeneration imparts eternal life (Eph 2:1) and precedes the exercise of faith in time (I John 5:1) it follows that faith arrives far too late to ever account for our justification before the throne of God, which occurred in covenant before the foundation of the world, commercially at Calvary, but only experimentally by faith. Faith lays hold of the preexisting truth of the imputation of Christ's righteousness to his people and is in no sense a causative instrument in man's justification before God. We are justified before the throne of God by the imputation of Christ's righteousness alone. When the bible speaks of our justification by faith it is referring to the evidentiary awareness of one's justification in our experience which is manifest by faith. Faith does not create justification, it receives the truth of a justification that was wrought entirely by Christ alone."
http://theearstohear.blogspot.com/2012/12/commentary-on-primitive-baptist.html

 

Depends on what you view as Salvation, and/or if Jesus' death should be contextualized more broadly. Here's what I mean...

Colossians 1:24
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions

2Tim 2:10
For this reason I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen, so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory

 

Not to hijack your thread, but I don't get this:


70 weeks is really 490 years, seeing that 1 week equals 7 years.
The hour is coming, when hour means a 'short time period'.
1,000 years means a literal 1,000 years stated in Revelation.


This is where are the confusions concerning eschatology stem from.

 

The question was answered several times over yet you continued to ask, and BTW not answer his questions either.

The original statement in the post was have these occurred for Israel,

to finish the transgression
to make an end of sins
to make reconciliation for iniquity.
to bring in everlasting righteousness.to seal up the vision and prophecy.
to anoint the most Holy.


These came in a question from this verse Dan 9:24 "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."


Notice the verse says these things would come after 70 weeks upon Daniel's people, so have these occurred upon Daniels' people and the Nation Israel in the Holy City?

 

I have answered, and more than once.

Did anyone here call the "church" a parenthesis in their explanation to you?
The Cross is never a parenthesis. No one here ever made that suggestion.

I don't know of anyone that disagrees with those verses. Do you?

Now let's look at the passage where you pulled the above phrases from, and see the context of them. The when they are found in their context they will make better sense.

Dan 9:24-27
(24) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
(25) Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
(26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
(27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

First note that the Lord says to Daniel:
70 weeks are determined upon thy people and thy holy city.
--This prophecy is specific to the Jews--Daniel's "people."
--The 70 weeks are determined upon the Jews for these things to happen.

(Brenton) Seventy weeks have been determined upon thy people, and upon the holy city, for sin to be ended,

(ESV) "Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin

(ISV) Seventy weeks have been decreed concerning your people and your holy city: to restrain transgression, to put an end to sin,

The transgression and sin are the iniquities of the Jews. During the 70th week Christ (when he comes) will put an end to their transgressions and sins. He hasn't yet. They continue far worse now than they ever were at the time of Christ.

1. to finish the transgression.

2. to make an end of sins.
--The sins are still continuing. Christ will come and put an end to them, as Israel turns to Christ.

3. to make reconciliation for iniquity.
--At the end of the Tribulation and before the Millennial Kingdom Christ will come and all Israel will turn to him and be saved. They will be reconciled unto him. The passage is directed toward the Jews, not to the Gentiles.
As Paul say in Rom.11:26, "And so all Israel shall be saved."
But that has not happened yet.

4. to bring in everlasting righteousness.
--It is quite evident that imputed righteousness and everlasting righteousness are quite different.
Daniel speaks of Christ "bringing in" everlasting righteousness.

As Isaac Watts said:
Joy to the world! The Lord is come
Let earth receive her King!
Let every heart prepare Him room

He rules the world with truth and grace
And makes the nations prove
The glories of His righteousness
And wonders of His love
And wonders of His love
And wonders and wonders of His love

--The "glories of his righteousness" are everlasting and will be seen all over the world during the Millennial Kingdom. This is a time, as Watts declares, that Christ, the King, will truly be King over all the earth. But He isn't right now. Satan is the god of this world.

5. to seal up the vision and prophecy.
When Christ comes again for the Jews, near the end of that 70th week, all the prophecies concerning the Jews will be fulfilled.
That will include the many OT prophecies concerning the Millennial Kingdom, the many prophecies concerning His Second Coming, the many prophecies about "the Day of the Lord," or the Tribulation, Jacob's Trouble, etc. They will all come to a fruition at that time.

6. to anoint the most Holy.
This probably refers to the anointing of Christ as King of Kings sitting on the throne of David, as described in Dan.7:25-27. He will indeed rule over all the earth and every person will worship him. They will have no option. He will rule with a rod of iron.

Now note:
Jerusalem was destroyed by "the armies of Titus." The people or armies actually did the destruction. True? They were commanded by Titus. Titus is referred to as "the prince." "The prince that shall come" is the antecedent of the "he" in verse 27.
It is that "he" who is a foreigner, and not Christ, that will make a covenant with the Jews for seven years and then break it in the midst of those seven years by desecrating the temple. Soon after that the end will come.

Christ never made a covenant with anyone for seven years.

 

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:

Who made a covenant for seven years? And with whom? And when did he do it?
Then when and why did he break it, becoming a covenant breaker?

 

What is it you hope to accomplish by this?