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Featured Heritage or Hate?

Discussion in 'History Forum' started by Zaac, Jul 9, 2015.

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  1. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    Flags of the Confederate States

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    It is absolutely absurd to claim that a flag that WAS NOT the flag of the Confederate States is about heritage.

     
    #1 Zaac, Jul 9, 2015
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    Umm...Southern armies did fly it, so, yeah, it is about heritage.
     
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    It wasn't about hate until democrats decided to use it as a symbol of their racist agenda.
     
    #3 carpro, Jul 9, 2015
  4. Zaac

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    It, the flag being flown today, is about hate and IS NOT the Confederate Flag. If it were really about heritage, folks would be flying an actual flag of the Confederate States and not , as you said, symbol of a racist agenda.
     
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    Only to a few. The same could be , and has been said, about the American flag.
     
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    This must be a symbol of hate: [​IMG]

    The Comanches took ["stole"] much of the southern plains from other tribes and attacked "immigrants," often abducting captives and subjecting them to torture and gang rape. One of their 'favorite' methods of execution was binding a naked man's hands and feet with stakes over a large ant bed, usually having cut off his eyelids.

    Hate and evil are part of "heritage." Are you consistent about which symbols you want stashed away, TW?
     
    #6 Alcott, Jul 9, 2015
  7. revmwc

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    It represents the battle that the South fought for the rights of the states to govern themselves in specific matters. The Civil war was more about states rights than anything else and that is the heritage of that flag.

    http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/civil-war-overview/overview.html

    Did the southern States have a right to secede? Did the Federal Government have the right to keep territories from having slaves. The freedom of the Southern states slaves was not in question. Abolition was not part of the concerns of the southern states.

    The Civil war was fought over the powers of the Federal government and it caused the deaths of thousands.

    The battle flag of freedom represents the fight for the rights of the States and new territories to govern themselves on many issues. The Federal Government till that time had little authority.

    Here is another excerpt of that battle still raging,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States

     
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    While for the American Indians "Old Glory" is a symbol of hate and evil. so do we also remove that flag from flying everywhere? Of course the Flag of the nations of Spain, France and the Britain are also offensive and represent evil to those native tribes so do we need to ban them also? Might as well begin the roll of everything that offends someone. Of course we know ultimately Churches will be told not to fly the Christian flag or put up cross because some find offense in them. Some have already requested all crosses be removed from national Cemeteries.
     
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    This is called question begging.
     
    #9 Revmitchell, Jul 9, 2015
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    Deflection and false equivalency.

    NEXT.
     
    #10 Zaac, Jul 9, 2015
  11. Zaac

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    You didn't say that I was incorrect in stating that it's about hate and not heritage.:laugh:
     
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    Here is a Quote which shows the flag is heritage not racist or hate,

     
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    It was the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.

    Doubting, why don't you fly a British flag? That is part of your heritage also. After all Georgia began as a British penal colony.
     
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  14. Zaac

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    Now that would be offensive CTB. The British tried to subject his ancestors. He couldn't dare fly that flag.
     
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    Why do you not call for the taking down of the pyramids?
     
    #15 Revmitchell, Jul 9, 2015
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    Another deflection via false equivalism.
     
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  17. Revmitchell

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    I do not think you know what that is. However, if he is going to make an equivalency of flags from other nations then mine is appropriate.
     
    #17 Revmitchell, Jul 9, 2015
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    Why don't you begin to be honest and stop attempting to derail threads when you are shown to be wrong again, and again, and again?

    I've never heard anyone say the pyramids are offensive. They are not to me.
     
    #18 Crabtownboy, Jul 9, 2015
  19. Revmitchell

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    So you cannot answer it? It seems you find yourself in a pickle here and are now deflecting.
     
    #19 Revmitchell, Jul 9, 2015
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    Why are they not offensive to you. They were built by slaver labor?
     
    #20 Revmitchell, Jul 9, 2015
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