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Why are you trying to turn this thread into a debate? This is a "Baptist FELLOWSHIP Forum," or at least that's what the title of the forum says.

 

Brother Iconoclast,

I guess Puritan John Owen also is guilty of "misuse" of John 16:13 if it applies only to the apostles? See his commentary on the verse I used http://www.the-highway.com/hsguided_Owen.html

Other verses in scripture are clear enough to establish my case,
"33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, " (Jeremiah 31:33-34a)

John 6:45, "It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God"

1 John 2:27, "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things"

 

Don't expect a reply.

 

Brother John,

If you read the thread you will see I simply posted my opinion in post 5 to the brother who started the thread who was under the impression he needed to go to seminary in order to be qualified to be an elder/pastor. In my second post, post 7, you will see I was merely responding to a question I was asked by Brother Robust if I thought people should go to seminary. After I did this, you will then see I was attacked on my position regarding the matter by multiple posters who thus initiated the debate, therefore I responded by defending my position from the Bible. I believe I have established my case to any unbiased reader from the scripture regarding this matter, thus I will respect that this, is as you rightly pointed out, a "Baptist Fellowship forum" and I will cease and desist further postings on this issue in this thread.

God bless you,

Brother Joe

 

You can always just read up on matters yourself and be self taught. Granted you won't have a "degree" but you will have the knowledge... And the saved money


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No kidding...:laugh:

 

No, but he started a Bible college for pastors

 

Thanks for the clarification. All I will say is that it takes two to debate. :type:

 

Indubitably correct. It would be a great misunderstanding to use Spurgeon as an example not to go to Bible college. His book Lectures to my Students is excellent.

 

I see nothing in this post to indicate its author feels the need to go to Seminary to be qualified for anything. It is simply a question to discover alternatives to costly Seminary education.

 

A seminary education is not a qualification, in itself, to preach. However it does provide proof that an individual is educated, at least academically.

Acts 19:9, 10 is an interesting passage to contemplate.

This passage is not proof of a seminary education, but it does point out that there was formal teaching that took place between Paul and his disciples.

It would be a wonderful thing if pastors and elders had the time to educate and train young men for ministry. Bible colleges and seminaries have filled that role for decades. There are some alternatives. From a Reformed perspective there is the Reformed Baptist Seminary and Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary. These institutions are non-traditional. While they do have physical classes, they also stream them (both live and recorded). This allows a student to take classes without having to go to a brick and mortar building. Classes also cost less than traditional seminaries. These schools work with the local church, not separate from it. I am sure there are non-Reformed alternatives, but I am not knowledgeable about them.

 

So Im 59 YO....you expect me to go to seminary at this late date! Please!!!

 

Yea well I have seen men who have sincerely studied scripture to an extent that I'm soundly more impressed with them then the few guys up the road who have advanced degrees. And they aren't trying to impress anyone with their "Knowledge" or trying to land a job with some church....they know who they are in spirit & in faith and it shows.

Now of course you will say they have "No Greek" but you know what, if that's the criterion for membership in the "seminary Trained Pastor" then keep them.

 

Which came first the corrupted church or the corrupted seminary?

God does not call people to preach false doctrine.

There is more false gospel out there than ever before. From whence does it come? False teachers--wolves dressed like sheep.

I recall a church where we had night classes in Bible Doctrine, Bible Greek, Church History, etal, taught by teachers with credentials from un-accredited seminaries. We had tests, diplomas and such. Accredited? no; effective ? Yes.

The gospel of the kingdom does not need accreditation from The State.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

Actually it was the corrupted individual. From there we have corrupt governments, corrupt pastors etc.....generally its a, " follow the money scenario." But I can say that some are very dedicated to higher education & spend both the time & the money to prepare for ministry....if God so intended it, so be it....and if God intended some schlep He picked out of the masses of sinful, back stabbing & scummy crowds, then that's his call......aint it!?! :laugh: