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The bulk of the information about Lawrence & the Middle East during his ventures there came from Dr. Dore Gold [Ph.D in International Relations & the Middle East from Columbia Univ.] various writings on the Middle East, especially from his The Fight for Jerusalem.

You are correct that Lawrence was only one the Arabs trusted, but that was due to his ability to sway the Arabs to his point of view. A tyrant holding political has almost always been the kind of ruler most Arabs tend to trust--even today (e.g., Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, etc.).

You are correct in stating that Lawrence's political/military ventures were primarily during WW1, but that doesn't discount the fact that national socialism was one of the more popular factions soon after 1918. The main reason it didn't gain ascendancy sooner was because none of its early leaders were great orators like Hitler was. A study of national socialism in Germany will tell you of that.

I realize that Lawrence didn't play any role in the economic demise of Germany. If you'll take the time to read my statements about this, you will not find me stating anywhere that I stated that Lawrence did.

Again, I didn't state that Hitler was the man that the German national socialists desired to be their leader because there was a continuous power struggle within the German national socialists until Hitler finally assumed leadership in their ranks.

While it's true that the Ottoman Turks were the principal enemy of the Arabs at that time. Even today very few Arab nations are friendly with Turkey. Although most Arabs are Islamic, they continue to distrust Turkey because Turkey is about the only Islamic state that has for some 90 or so years shown that an Islamic nation doesn't have to be controlled by an oppressive form of government.

As you stated, I don't think any serious Christian would want to uphold Lawrence as a model of one that would support a Jewish state in the Middle East.

CTB, since your post requested that I provide source material to support the statements in my post on this thread, now I will ask you to produce source material to disprove my statements that you infer are false.

 

Are you inferring 'serious Christians' are/were somehow obliged to support the Zionists?

 

If a Jewish state is to be created ............

.....then who's going to do the landscaping, plumbing, and woodworking? Jews consider themselves too good for that kind of work. Maybe they have illegal aliens from Jordan who will do it for $7.50/hour?

 

Migrant labor in Israel

 

I'm not inferring anything.

All my original post on this thread attempted to do was to give a little historical background concerning Lawrence and his activities.

I'd appreciate that people not read more into that post than I intended to do.

 

I didn't 'read' anything into it. It's why I asked. There's plenty here on BB that do believe it.

 

No surprises here.

“I feel it again to be my duty to point out that it seems to me and all the members of my Office acquainted with the Middle East that the policy which we are following in New York at the present time is contrary to the interests of the United States and will eventually involve us in international difficulties of so grave a character that the reaction throughout the world, as well as in this country, will be very strong....I wonder if the President realizes that the plan which we are supporting for Palestine leaves no force other than local law enforcement organizations for preserving order in Palestine. It is quite clear that there will be wide-scale violence in that country, on both the Jewish and Arab sides, with which the local authorities will not be able to cope....It seems to me we ought to think twice before we support any plan which would result in American troops going to Palestine.....“We are under no obligations to the Jews to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration and the Mandate provided not for a Jewish state, but for a Jewish national home. Neither the United States nor the British Government has ever interpreted the term ‘Jewish national home’ to be a Jewish national state.” Loy Henderson, director of the State Department’s Office of Near Eastern and African Affairs, 1947.

“The pressures to which this Government is now subjected are ones which impel us toward a position where we would shoulder major responsibility for the maintenance, and even the expansion, of a Jewish state in Palestine....If we do not effect a fairly radical reversal of the trend of our policy to date, we will end up either in the position of being ourselves militarily responsible for the protection of the Jewish population in Palestine against the declared hostility of the Arab world, or of sharing that responsibility with the Russians and thus assisting at their installation as one of the military powers of the area.” George Kennan, director of policy planning at the State Department, 1948.

“I’m sorry, gentlemen, but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands who are anxious for the success of Zionism. I do not have hundreds of thousands of Arabs among my constituents.” Harry Truman

Truman Overrode Strong State Department Warning Against Partitioning of Palestine in 1947