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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Alcott, Aug 29, 2015.

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Which of these you think was not made by the Word, who was with and was God?

  1. Satan

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  2. Satan's wish to rule over, or apart from, God

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  3. Tobacco

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  4. Marijuana

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  5. Attraction for persons of the same sex

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  6. Poisonous snakes and spiders

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  7. Dementia

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  8. Fears that cannot be explained [phobias]

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  9. Self-centeredness

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  10. This is one of those questions we'll nevr understand in this world

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  1. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
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    All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made-- John 1:3

    Do we fully accept this? I remember an episode of All in the Family in which Archie Bunker defended smoking, saying "God meant for man to smoke...everything God planted is for man to use." Then when asked about marijuana, he replied, "God didn't plant marijuana; that was..." and I can't remember the rest of the quote. Anyway, the point is that people will rationalize anything they want to be true. The concept of "If it exists, then God made it" can be a hard one to deal with-- probably less so for physical objects than for ideas and thought patterns [which do exist]. So what are a few examples of which it might be claimed that God did not make them, and how do we explain ['rationalize'] it?
     
    #1 Alcott, Aug 29, 2015
  2. Aaron

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    Some of the things you listed are corrupted affections. God made affections, yes, and He made all things good, but He didn't make all things incorruptible.
     
    #2 Aaron, Aug 29, 2015
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    I'm going with this answer. I agree and it will save me a lot of typing. :wavey:
     
    #3 padredurand, Aug 29, 2015
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    I echo the sentiment here, too. Aaron put my exact thoughts into a neat, concise answer
     
    #4 JamesL, Aug 29, 2015
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    Ditto.....
     
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  6. Alcott

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    If corruptability does exist, did God not make it?
     
    #6 Alcott, Aug 29, 2015
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    Before answering any specific questions a proper study of God's holy attributes would go a long way to answering these questions before they're even asked

    For example let's say you see the same vision Isaiah saw of the Lord Jesus Christ seated upon the throne do you think you ask him a question about whether it's okay to smoke weed?
     
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  8. Aaron

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    Does a potter make the space inside the jar?
     
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    Scripture tells us:

    Genesis 1:31. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

    Scripture also tells us:

    Ecclesiastes 7:29, {NKJV} Truly, this only I have found: That God made man upright, But they have sought out many schemes.

    Aaron sums up the situation very well as most who have posted agree. I don't believe I could have done as well so I will have to "amen' Aaron!

     
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  10. Alcott

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    No, it's already made; it's there whether there's a jar enclosing it or not. The possibility of corruption exists only if God made it, or else John 1:3 is wrong.
     
    #10 Alcott, Aug 30, 2015
  11. Aaron

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    Never mind. :)
     
    #11 Aaron, Aug 30, 2015
  12. Alcott

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    Your new nickname, or what?
     
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    God did create satan

    God also decreed the fall that He might exalt to Son and redeem a people unto Himself. By doing so, we can now worship God in love not only as our creator, but as our Redeemer, Sustainer and Friend.

    Dementia, sin, health problems etc are as a direct result of the fall in Genesis chapter 3
     
    #13 Marooncat79, Aug 30, 2015
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    But do they qualify as "things that were made," or did/do/will they exist completely independent of God's sovereignty?
     
    #14 Alcott, Aug 30, 2015
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    Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day... Brother Glen
     
    #15 tyndale1946, Aug 30, 2015
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    They exist because of the corruption of that which was "good" into that which is condemned.

    "For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now."
     
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    Yes or No: Were they made?
     
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    You answered the question in the OP.

    Aaron answered the extension in the following post.

     
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    The question remains: did God create corruptability?
     
    #19 Alcott, Aug 31, 2015
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    Gen 1 tells us what God created. Then it said he rested from creation and it was very good.

    Where do you see corruptibility as part of the original creation?

    Things that are corruptible were as a result of the curse....not the creation.
     
    #20 Iconoclast, Aug 31, 2015
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