Tullian Tchividjian Back in Active Ministry

[Reformed]

Oh lord...i just started attending a PCA church thinking they would be organized enough to be....maybe id better find out more about the diciplining policies.

It is not the fault of the PCA. They properly disciplined Mr. Tchividjian. Mr. Tchividjian simply chose to ignore it.

 

[annsni]

It is not the fault of the PCA. They properly disciplined Mr. Tchividjian. Mr. Tchividjian simply chose to ignore it.

But he was hired by a PCA at the same time he filed for divorce after being unfaithful to his wife.

 

[Jerome]

Reformed Baptist historian Tom Chantry:

"Mark Driscoll, Tullian Tchividjian, and Reformed Baptist Polity"

the church Tchividjian formerly pastored and the one in which he has now been established in semi-office are both part of the Presbyterian Church in America.

That “THUD” you just heard was the sound of a lot of Presbyterian rhetoric abruptly hitting the ground.

In the absence of a righteous polity we get Driscoll, but where righteous polity is administered by unfit men we see instead Tchividjian.

The comparison of the two scandals ought to serve as a lesson to Reformed Baptists. The temptation for us (I wonder how many of us have already said this) is to repeat the error of last year’s Presbyterian apologists – to loudly insist, “Nothing like this could ever happen in a Reformed Baptist church!” If that is so, the reason is that we don’t have any churches large enough for the broader evangelical world to notice when we fail

Along the way have been plenty of mishandled and un-handled scandals which – mercifully – the wider evangelical world has simply ignored. I don’t imagine that we couldn’t have a Driscoll or a Tchividjian in our ranks; we’ve in fact already given those two a run for their money in our own small corner of the Christian world

 

[Reformed]

But he was hired by a PCA at the same time he filed for divorce after being unfaithful to his wife.

Not every PCA presbytery is the same. I believe Coral Ridge's presbytery sanctioned him. I'm away from my desktop, so I'll have to check later. I know some very biblically run PCA churches that would never tolerate what happened in this case.

 

[Reformed]

For the record, I'm not out to get Mr. Tchividjian. I truly hopes he repents and his reconciled to his wife before either gets remarried. But his quick move back into ministry mocks church discipline and minimizes sin. What the shepherd does the sheep mimic.

 

[Reformed]

Not every PCA presbytery is the same. I believe Coral Ridge's presbytery sanctioned him. I'm away from my desktop, so I'll have to check later. I know some very biblically run PCA churches that would never tolerate what happened in this case.

Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church is part of the South Florida Presbytery. The SFP officially deposed Mr. Tchividjian. Willow Creek Church ignored the action of the SFP. You can read about it here:

http://theaquilareport.com/the-pcas-south-florida-presbytery-deposes-tullian-tchividjian-from-ministry/

 

[Reformed]

Brethren, rally around your pastor and elders. Have their back. In fact, have their family's back. They have a burden on their shoulders few people can truly appreciate.

 

[Darrell C]

Paul, and the rest of the Apostles, were all a work in progress. That they were commissioned directly by Christ is not the same thing as the ordination of a minister of the Gospel today.

Paul did persecute Christians before he became one himself.

Is this an answer to my questions?

Peter being rebuked by Paul was a form of church discipline, albeit Apostle to Apostle. But since Peter was commissioned directly by the Lord, only the Lord could remove Peter from office. That is not the way it is today when it comes to Pastors and Elders. The Lord Jesus Christ is no longer directly commissioning ministers of the Gospel. Certainly the Holy Spirit is involved in calling a man to ministry, but it is not the same thing as the Lord calling His twelve by name. This is why Paul waxed eloquently about the qualifications of ministry in I & II Timothy and Titus.

Let me see if I have your position straight: it is not God that is in control?

Men have taken over something that the Lord used to do?

The Lord Jesus Christ is no longer directly commissioning ministers of the Gospel.

On the contrary, my friend, Christ is the Builder.

It is interesting how you started off with you concern about this being a learning experience for Tullian Tchividjian. You give lip service about his marriage being restored (which is unlikely since Mr. Tchividjian filed for divorce after this thread was created).

And we know that once men set their minds to something the Lord could not possibly intervene in the affairs (no pun intended).

But what about the restoration that is needed within the church he pastored?

The first thing would be to teach them...not to follow men. Secondly, that men will sin. Third, that forgiveness is not a suggestion in the Word of God.

As to whether this fellow has repented or not, we will not likely be privy to that, but, we can hope that through this event the man may profit from it and that all involved (spouse, children if any, church members, and the man himself) will grow into the people God is training up.

We have too many who have a stronger devotion to their pastors, sunday school teachers, fellow members, favorite teachers...than they do to God. Hopefully this event will help some to see the futility in following men.

How about the many people who were spiritually damaged by his actions?

If one becomes "spiritually damaged" because a leader falls...my sympathies go out to them.

Far worse is the shame reflected on Christ.

Far worse is the trauma inflicted on the family itself.

Seriously, not one believer should be "spiritually damaged." If so, time to take stock in who they are following.

Mr. Tchividjian jumped so fast at his new staff position that that one would be insane to call that an act of true repentance.

Your judgment is noted.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Darrell C



God has spoken clearly on this:

Agreed:


Galatians 6:1

King James Version (KJV)

6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.



God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Had this been a long past issue, I would agree with you but this man JUST filed for divorce from his wife. This tells me a lot. They both committed adultery and their marriage is damaged beyond repair due to sin in both parties.

We can not say it is beyond repair. And if they both committed adultery, then both have that shared guilt which may help in the healing process. Sounds strange, I know, but I would say it is possible for them to reconcile.

Shall we pray for that?

This is all a recent development and let me tell you - it takes YEARS to recover from adultery in a marriage. YEARS!

Some may never recover, and personally...I wouldn't hold that against them, this is a grievous betrayal.

The question would be the love that was there to begin with. The adultery may evidence a poor marriage between two people who do not understand what marriage means before God.

This man is right at this time absolutely disqualified from any service in the church at this time and any time in the near future.

Your judgment is noted.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

My view is no marriage is beyond repair. We have a God and His word that is bigger that any marriage problem. If Jesus can hang from the cross and ask the Father to forgive those who railed and hung Him there then so can we forgive our spouses no matter what the problem.

That being said and true, the decision to divorce is a choice. It is a choice to quit, it is a choice to go against the sanctity of marriage further and is unnecessary.

The decision to divorce is further evidence of a judgment problem. While he has to work being in a leadership position in a church is very problematic. Maybe the pastor is keeping him on a tight leash and has him under a restoration program while serving.

However, this comes across as making light of his situation and working to avoid consequences as much as possible.

Amen.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Oh lord...i just started attending a PCA church thinking they would be organized enough to be....maybe id better find out more about the diciplining policies.

Each congregation has to be viewed as a separate entity, no two are the same.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Originally Posted by Revmitchell View Post
My view is no marriage is beyond repair.

It is beyond repair when your spouse leaves and marries another.

That goes without saying, and is irrelevant to what was said, because to our knowledge that has not happened and there is still hope for these two.

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We have a God and His word that is bigger that any marriage problem. If Jesus can hang from the cross and ask the Father to forgive those who railed and hung Him there then so can we forgive our spouses no matter what the problem.

Yes, but if they refuse to receive grace and leave the relationship, then a mere human cannot change that. Even God had elected not to violate the will of a human to reject Him.

He "violated" Jonah's will. Also Ananias.

The fact is that God can make this a profitable event, and not just for the family, but for many people who may be in adulterous affairs or considering one.

Quote:
That being said and true, the decision to divorce is a choice.

Sometimes it is the best choice to let the community and government know what has already happened. The real divorce happens long before any announcement is made or papers filed.

We have to maintain a Biblical position, and understand that divorce, while hated by God, is an option for those who have been betrayed by their spouse, and for those who have unbelieving spouses (the likely cause to the first issue) who abandon them.

How this relates to the world is inconsequential from a spiritual perspective.

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It is a choice to quit, it is a choice to go against the sanctity of marriage further and is unnecessary.

It's just not that black and white. Simply put, it is sometimes the best choice because there are not any good choices.

This is true.

However, in view is a particular marriage, not a general discussion about all possibilities.

The sanctity of marriage has already been woefully damaged by the time anyone files for divorce.

Yet there is always hope.

If there are children, the impact of divorce on them should be a restraint to separation and a reason for reconciliation. This is something that has done more damage to cause of Christ than most things.

It is the death certificate for a marriage. It should come after there is no hope for reconciliation. In community property states, remaining legally married when your marriage has realistically ended can turn into a huge problem. For instance, if your enstranged spouse is running up enormous debts, you have a Christian obligation not to borrow money that you can't repay.

I am very sorry for your previous experience, but that is a unique event not relevant to this issue. Most of this is unrelated to a Biblical perspective of the situation in focus.

I know nothing about the internal workings of this marriage that has ended,

Which is why you might consider not laying judgment. I think your past experience imposes a bias, which while understandable, my friend, doesn't mean we have to judge this situation based on your experience.

but I know enough not to make judgments about other people's marriages/divorces because the reality is often very different than what appears in public.

You don't think you not only made a judgment...but imposed sentence?

Many years ago my first wife bailed out on our marriage because it didn't solve all of her personal issues and took off to live with one of the guys she had been cheating on me with for at least the previous year. I had discovered the affair and was trying to work things out with her for nearly a year when she jumped at the chance to move in with him. For the next six months, I continued to try to reconcile, but she ran up enormous debts - debts that took nearly 15 years to repay (I was counseling to file for bankruptcy, but that would not be fair to the lenders who loaned money to her (us) in good faith) - and I was rapidly reaching the point where I would not be able to ever pay them back - and I knew she couldn't/wouldn't.

Very sorry to hear about that.

Under counsel from my pastor and other spiritual leaders, I filed for divorce to protect myself and others from her actions, and - in the words of my pastor - "officially state what has already happened" in my marriage. It was the right decision to make in that situation. Nevertheless, my Christian brothers and sisters came out of the woodwork to condemn me for being hard-hearted and not having faith in God.

Again, irrelevant to this situation.

I had more than a few people accuse me of having a girlfriend on the side (believe me, I didn't want another relationship) and notified me that they would condemn the new marriage (that they expected within a few months) so I had better rethink that. (I'm sure there are some people out there who pride themselves on warning me away from my marriage to a nonexistent girlfriend.) I suppose what explains their ungodly attacks on me was that I didn't regularly inform everyone that my wife was cheating on me and that she was making a mockery of our marriage. That's because I was trying to reconcile with her and if I was successful, others would hold grudges and would continue to condemn her - especially my own extended family. Telling more than one or two close friends would ensure that I could not be reconciled.

Irrelevant.

So, folks who say there is no excuse for divorce, I agree.

Then you would be in conflict with the teachings of the Bible. There are, sometimes...very good reasons for divorce.

And adultery is a betrayal that, if one can achieve forgiveness for their spouse...my hat is off to them.

But as for the congregation and the Church herself...should we really be surprised that a man could fall into such sin? And should that shake us?

I say no, it should not.

However, there are often innocent parties to the divorce who actually need support, not accusations and condemnation.

There are always innocent parties in something like this.

That doesn't mean the offenders should not be ministered to.

Moreover, it is not always clear who is the innocent party.

It's not?

From who's perspective? The innocent's?

Should someone who has recently endured divorce be in a leadership role in Christian ministry? No.

Your judgment is noted.

But I think churches should find creative ways to help ministers transition to careers outside of vocational ministry or have them work in the background in an extremely low-profile position (not splash their name on websites) to provide expertise until they have healed and the Spirit gives evidence that they are to continue their calling.

Personally I will let the Lord deal with that aspect of the issue, as well as those under whom this man falls under authority.

And it might not help if Granpa gives him a talking to.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

I agree that no marriage is beyond repair but when a spouse files for divorce, what can you do? But to repair a marriage that has been damaged by infidelity, there is a lot of work to be done and if the other spouse is unrepentant and continues in the infidelity, I do think there are absolute grounds to leave - as Jesus Himself said as well.

I don't think we should look at it as the offended spouse demanding repentance from the offender, but with a view that true repentance come about.

That is possible.

But if it is a matter of the spouse holding it over the offender's head, that speaks of a spiritual malady for that spouse as well. It lacks the forgiveness that is necessary for healing to take place, in my opinion.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

From the pastor of Willow Creek Presbyterian (PCA):

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warren...llian-tchividjian-is-overwhelmingly-positive/

I think it would be helpful and important to clarify a few things. First, the South Florida Presbytery of the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) deposed Tullian from what we Presbyterians call the office of teaching elder (what most American Christians would label “pastor”), but did so without further censure. He was not excommunicated. Since his deposition did not include excommunication, Tullian is not precluded by our church polity from serving on a PCA church staff per se. His deposition simply means that he cannot do so as a teaching elder.

Second, the position offered to Tullian does not involve responsibilities unique to the office of teaching elder (or pastor). His work will be as a support staff member.

Thirdly, Tullian is not new to our church family. He and his family attended Willow Creek years ago, during his seminary studies. He has friends here, and so his re-entry into our community during this difficult time seems quite appropriate and natural. We simply want to care and help provide for him and, by extension, his family.

Finally, I understand that some might disagree with the timing. We sense genuine confession and contrition from Tullian, and are eager to welcome him to Willow Creek. We want to see the process of repentance continue in the context of a loving church family. We believe that it is important for the church to demonstrate faith in the reconciling power of the gospel by running toward those pastors caught in public scandal, not away from them.

Makes me think of Peter:


John 21:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.


God bless.

 

[Iconoclast]

Agreed:


Galatians 6:1

King James Version (KJV)

6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.


Gal 6:1 is a fine verse......but once a person has shown they are not qualified for ministry they cannot function that way again.....

it says..."must"....not should be, or try as best as you can , or see how long you can last.....
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

 

[Reformed]

Is this an answer to my questions?

Your attempted to draw a correlation between Tullian Tchividjian's sin and Peter's denial of Christ is woeful. They are not the same and did not produce similar results. Peter repented. When Paul rebuked Peter for the latter's sin of partiality, Peter repented of that too. Mr. Tchividjian has not displayed repentance. Instead he has ignored the discipline of his ecclesiastical governing body (the South Florida Presbytery).

Let me see if I have your position straight: it is not God that is in control?

Men have taken over something that the Lord used to do?

On the contrary, my friend, Christ is the Builder.

I was waiting for my comment to be misunderstood or misrepresented.

The Lord Jesus Christ is not commissioning pastors and elders the way He did the Apostles. In my previous reply to you I did mention that God is involved in calling men to ministry, through the agency of the Holy Spirit. But the Lord is not presently walking this earth calling ministers by name. Christ works through His church. He has given the church certain offices (Eph. 4:11). There are too many self-appointed gospel ministers who have never submitted themselves to the care and guidance of their pastors and elders. But I digress.

And we know that once men set their minds to something the Lord could not possibly intervene in the affairs (no pun intended).

The first thing would be to teach them...not to follow men. Secondly, that men will sin. Third, that forgiveness is not a suggestion in the Word of God.

As to whether this fellow has repented or not, we will not likely be privy to that, but, we can hope that through this event the man may profit from it and that all involved (spouse, children if any, church members, and the man himself) will grow into the people God is training up.

We have too many who have a stronger devotion to their pastors, sunday school teachers, fellow members, favorite teachers...than they do to God. Hopefully this event will help some to see the futility in following men.

If one becomes "spiritually damaged" because a leader falls...my sympathies go out to them.

Far worse is the shame reflected on Christ.

Far worse is the trauma inflicted on the family itself.

Seriously, not one believer should be "spiritually damaged." If so, time to take stock in who they are following.

Darrel, when a minister of the gospel engages in public sin, and fails to repent, he not only disgraces himself, but he causes real harm to the local body of Christ. He also gives the enemies of Christ cause to blaspheme. I am surprised you do not see this en toto, not just part of it. Mr. Tchividjian's presbytery not only deposed him, they offered to care for his soul by coming along side him and his family. They did not throw him to the wolves.

 

[Jerome]

Mr. Tchividjian has not displayed repentance. Instead he has ignored the discipline of his ecclesiastical governing body (the South Florida Presbytery).

Huh?

Reformed Arsenal - Some Clarifications

I stated that Tullian had disregarded the discipline process by moving to another congregation and taking a staff position. This simply was not true, and thus it was incumbent upon me to correct my statement. Regardless of if I think that Tullian should not have done this (which I stated above, he should not have), he did so with permission from his discipline committee, and as far as I can tell… in accordance with the policies of the Book of Church Order that the PCA uses.

 

[Darrell C]

Originally Posted by Darrell C View Post
Is this an answer to my questions?

Your attempted to draw a correlation between Tullian Tchividjian's sin and Peter's denial of Christ is woeful.

Your right, that was a mistake...Peter's sin is far worse.

Has this fellow denounced Christ?

They are not the same and did not produce similar results.

True, so far this fellow has not denied Christ so save his own skin.

Peter repented.

Yet you judge this man has not. How could you possibly know?

When Paul rebuked Peter for the latter's sin of partiality, Peter repented of that too.

It was not partiality Peter was guilty of...it was hypocrisy, the same sin the Lord rebuked the Pharisees of.

It was no small matter, it was a denial of basic truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Mr. Tchividjian has not displayed repentance.

How would you know? Please give the evidence that this man has not repented.

Instead he has ignored the discipline of his ecclesiastical governing body (the South Florida Presbytery).

How is that possible if he is once again restored to fellowship?

Something here is not adding up.

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Originally Posted by Darrel C
Let me see if I have your position straight: it is not God that is in control?

Men have taken over something that the Lord used to do?

On the contrary, my friend, Christ is the Builder.

I was waiting for my comment to be misunderstood or misrepresented.

The Lord Jesus Christ is no longer directly commissioning ministers of the Gospel. Certainly the Holy Spirit is involved in calling a man to ministry, but it is not the same thing as the Lord calling His twelve by name.

Not much to misrepresent.

The Lord has always called His ministers by name.

Not sure about the distinction you place between the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit...is not God One God?


John 14:18

King James Version (KJV)

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


The promises of God were not just for the Disciples, not just for the Apostles, and the Gospel ministers, the ministers of the New Covenant...are not secluded to those historical figures.

The Lord Jesus Christ is not commissioning pastors and elders the way He did the Apostles.

And your Scripture for that position?

I am not saying that there are Apostles performing miracles today, but, it is the Lord building His Church according to His Own will and that has not ceased. The Lord is still building His Church on the same foundation He did when the Church began on Pentecost.

In my previous reply to you I did mention that God is involved in calling men to ministry, through the agency of the Holy Spirit. But the Lord is not presently walking this earth calling ministers by name. Christ works through His church. He has given the church certain offices (Eph. 4:11). There are too many self-appointed gospel ministers who have never submitted themselves to the care and guidance of their pastors and elders. But I digress.

So the Church is now the Builder?

But I digress.

Agreed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darrel C
And we know that once men set their minds to something the Lord could not possibly intervene in the affairs (no pun intended).

The first thing would be to teach them...not to follow men. Secondly, that men will sin. Third, that forgiveness is not a suggestion in the Word of God.

As to whether this fellow has repented or not, we will not likely be privy to that, but, we can hope that through this event the man may profit from it and that all involved (spouse, children if any, church members, and the man himself) will grow into the people God is training up.

We have too many who have a stronger devotion to their pastors, sunday school teachers, fellow members, favorite teachers...than they do to God. Hopefully this event will help some to see the futility in following men.

If one becomes "spiritually damaged" because a leader falls...my sympathies go out to them.

Far worse is the shame reflected on Christ.

Far worse is the trauma inflicted on the family itself.

Seriously, not one believer should be "spiritually damaged." If so, time to take stock in who they are following.

Darrel, when a minister of the gospel engages in public sin,

This was not public sin, it was sin committed in secret. He has been found out, and now it is time for the Church to deal with it. This is a matter for that Body, and from the quote presented by the leadership, it sounds as though they are handling it quite well.

and fails to repent,

How do you know this. Again, please present the evidence of his non-repentant attitude.

he not only disgraces himself, but he causes real harm to the local body of Christ.

I noted that in my statement, but, I see that what is ignored is the harm done by hot-headed and premature judgment in the Body.

The world is going to eat that up too. We are called to handle these matters in a Godly fashion, not simply bite and devour those who fall into sin. The man sleeping with his father's wife was unrepentant, and the Church took no measures. This is not the case here.

He also gives the enemies of Christ cause to blaspheme.

We all do that, my friend, to some degree or another. The world is simply waiting for a misstep on our part.

I am surprised you do not see this en toto, not just part of it.

On the contrary, I am not the one with a singular focus of condemnation. For the time, I am content to see how this unfolds, and we will not know, I believe, for years to come.

Again, this can have a positive effect on the man, the marriage, the congregation, and even those aware of the situation.

Think of the many believers who were exceedingly sinful before salvation, and the glorious results of salvation to where they become useful ministers. Do you think at salvation a man or woman becomes sinless, and if they sin after salvation...throw the Book at them?

It's fortunate for us that God does not treat His children with such a lack of compassion.

Mr. Tchividjian's presbytery not only deposed him, they offered to care for his soul by coming along side him and his family. They did not throw him to the wolves.

Precisely.

So why would you?


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Agreed:


Galatians 6:1

King James Version (KJV)

6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Gal 6:1 is a fine verse......but once a person has shown they are not qualified for ministry they cannot function that way again.....

it says..."must"....not should be, or try as best as you can , or see how long you can last.....
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

Not completely relevant, in that deals primarily with election to office.

If anyone is at fault in regards to this passage, it would be the leadership that appointed him.

And after taking office, if one fall into the snare of the Devil (and that is what we would think happened) and reproach (this has certainly happened), then I would think this...


Galatians 6:1

King James Version (KJV)

6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.


...is not only more relevant, but a warning to us all as to how we handle those who have fallen:


Galatians 6:1

King James Version (KJV)

6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.


It is this type of situation which we should approach with fear and trembling, lest we too, after having set forth judgment upon another...also fall.


God bless.