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I think Baptist Board is moving towards an Aaroncentric model, with a multitude of duplicate threads spiraling round and round, bathing in his illumination.

How many threads does it take to discuss this one topic?

 

Or forum trolls.

 

What are you--living in the 17th century?

 

The space program provided plenty of technological inventions that changed the world we live in.
Wrong science stunts innovation just as wrong theology can stunt one's relationship to God.

Galileo changed not only how we viewed the stars and planets around us but changed how we interpet the bible.

Rob

 

The thing about truth, is you can use it to test theories.

Like using Mercury's orbit around the sun to test Einstein's theory of general relativity.

One could write a book on all of the applications of general relativity. Explaining the time offset of satellites orbiting Earth is one example. You can read more about this practical use at this link.

http://physicscentral.com/explore/writers/will.cfm

 

Is GPS useful to more than just astronomers? Because it took the theory of general relativity to make it work. A theory tested in part by heliocentricity.

And all directions are arbitrary. Based off of east and west, up and down, lat and long. If I'm laying on the grass looking up at the sky, the sun rises above me. When I bake bread, the dough rises up. Are the walls of Jericho falling down now lies just because down is a direction dictated by latitude, longitude, and matter accelerating towards the earth due to gravity?

If you think heliocentricity somehow makes all of our language lies, well, that's your opinion. I do not hold to it.

And I don't see how starting an apologetic method based on denying truth will be effective. How do you think someone will respond to your assertion that the statement "God is the lord of all" is an objective truth when you then go around attacking heliocentricity.

There are plenty of philosophies claiming truth is only what's true for the individual. I believe that objective truth exists. Your mileage may vary.

 

So if I told you that you had no use, would that be a personal attack?

I would consider calling something useless an attack.

Oh, and position and direction are relative to what? Arbitrary picked coordinates?

 

The following passages can best be supported with which model, Heliocentric or Geocentric?

Joshua 10:

12 Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. 14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the Lord fought for Israel.

2 Kings 20:

8 And Hezekiah said unto Isaiah, What shall be the sign that the Lord will heal me, and that I shall go up into the house of the Lord the third day? 9 And Isaiah said, This sign shalt thou have of the Lord, that the Lord will do the thing that he hath spoken: shall the shadow go forward ten degrees, or go back ten degrees? 10 And Hezekiah answered, It is a light thing for the shadow to go down ten degrees: nay, but let the shadow return backward ten degrees. 11 And Isaiah the prophet cried unto the Lord: and he brought the shadow ten degrees backward, by which it had gone down in the dial of Ahaz.

Notice in Joshua we are told the sun stood still, not that the earth did but the sun. If the Sun is Stationary then it always stands still. The interlinear states, Verse 13, “and he is standing still the sun and the moon he stayed…and He is staying the Sun in the middle of the Heavens and not He rushed to the set of as day flawless”

2 Kings 20: verse 11, “…the shadow ten degrees backward…” interlinear, “…Yahweh and He is reversing the shadow in the steps thereof…”

Both sound as if the Sun was reversed from an orbit not the Earth. Now think about God reversing the earth.

What would the oceans do when the earth was reversed?

Would they continue with their currents or would they immediately stop and reverse?

Does the Law of centrifugal force come in? “…centrifugal force, action-reaction force pair associated with circular motion. According to Newton's first law of motion, a moving body travels along a straight path with constant speed (i.e., has constant velocity) unless it is acted on by an outside force. For circular motion to occur there must be a constant force acting on a body, pushing it toward the center of the circular path. This force is the centripetal ("center-seeking") force. For a planet orbiting the sun, the force is gravitational; for an object twirled on a string, the force is mechanical; for an electron orbiting an atom, it is electrical…The centrifugal force is often mistakenly thought to cause a body to fly out of its circular path when it is released; rather, it is the removal of the centripetal force that allows the body to travel in a straight line as required by Newton's first law. If there were in fact a force acting to force the body out of its circular path, its path when released would not be the straight tangential course that is always observed.” So if that force were removed from the earth to hold the Sun still and to move the shadow back ten steps then would those things in motion, rivers, lakes and oceans continue in motion and fly out of their circular path. Yet if the sun were held or moved from an orbit around the earth those same rivers, lakes and oceans would remain in motion. Seems to me as if the Bible can be best supported with the Geocentric model.

 

If we can't agree on what an attack is and what qualifies as useful, we are at a standstill.