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If you are preaching that people can be saved by keeping the Ten Commandments, that would be disastrous, but I don't think that's what you are doing.
If you are using the law to try to convict your listeners of sin, that is perfectly correct and I hope you keep doing it.

 

James 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
--Don't these laws apply to us?

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
--We are sinners aren't we?

 

The Moral Law, summarized in the 10 Commandments and epitomized in the 'Golden Rule' is treated differently and separately by God compared to the ceremonial and judicial laws which are abolished in Christ. This is shown in verses like Deut. 5:22; Isaiah 1:12-17; Amos 5:21-24; Matt. 9:13.
Therefore you will save no one by telling him that he mustn't eat a shrimp sandwich (Lev. 11:10), but you may save him by pointing Him to God's moral law and convicting him of sin.

 

The ten commandments are still for today.
We are not under law to Moses
We are under law to Christ.
All men will be judged by the 10......

 

You're beloved dispensationalist friends will not agree with you. The best of them will offer mental gymnastics in trying to answer this.....because that system is dead wrong here.

You are trying to cling to a system that is inconsistent and fatally flawed.

 

Correct....
I am typing on my phone....I should be more careful.Thanks for pointing it out.
I know you do not like my posting but you must understand. .
If you stay in the middle ground on every issue theologically you will get attacked from both sides...
On all areas....

 

Did not Paul specifically state that one is to either be free from the law or enslaved and bound to the law?

The commandments are written upon the heart of every person (Romans 1) so, preaching the ten commandments is preaching to the choir. What the apostles did was preach Christ was crucified, risen and is coming again.

If folks respond to that message, it is the work of the Holy Spirit, and not some superimposed emotional wrestling with a broken commandment.

All have broken the commandments.

What is the solution is what should be offered.

 

So offering the problem isn't practical?

That's kinda like telling a person to take this medicine without first telling them they have a disease.

 

No, I am stating that those who "have ears to hear" already understand they are condemned, and they need to be given the solution not further condemned by one who is also just as frail as themselves.

You assume that one doesn't know they are sick, as if they have some hidden cancer. That just isn't the state of those that have ears.

A great example is the woman at the well, or even the thief on the cross. Both already knew they were sin-filled. What was it they needed? The solution.

Do not take the extreme to think that I am not in favor of bringing up the commandments. But, they are not a tool to use as a hammer, but a guide to Christ.

For example:

"The Scriptures state it is wrong to lie, cheat, steal and many other such offenses toward both God and man. Have we not all done one or more of these? If we have offended in one, are we not guilty of death. What will you offer God for excuse or demand of this death? God has already brought you a solution. Why you and I were born sinful and are sin filled today, God in His love sent His only natural born Son, to redeem all who will believe. For His Son died that those who believer are no longer condemned to die. Those that don't believe are already condemned, as each one of us who now believer were also condemned for unbelief..."​

The folks should be shown that they are already condemned, and that God provided the Lamb.

 

So when was the last time you explicitly shared the gospel and exactly what did you say?

Also something to consider...why did Philip EXPLAIN the scriptures to The Eunuch?

 

And the Spirit Works WITH the Word of God, To convict of sin and unbelief...a supernatural act that God has for some amazing reason allowed us to be fellow laborers with Him in doing (1 Cor. 3, 2 Cor. 4-5)

 

Hello John C
yes you are correct we have some agreement and some disagreement.
I believe the Ten Commandments were in effect before they were given to Moses and Israel .
I think they were given to Moses and Israel as a starting point and then all the other commandments were expansions of the Ten Commandments that would apply during the Israelite theocracy.
The law is holy just and good but it was never given or intended to be a means of salvation.
the only one that could keep the Law is the Lord Jesus Christ and by his perfect obedience perfect active obedience and at righteousness being applied to us we are saved by his law keeping

 

Yes.....exactly. God as perfectly Holy reveals to His image bearers what his design is for mankind.
Adam in the fall loses the ability to rightly community with a Holy God as designed.
God's law did not change. Man in sin and rebellion still has the broken imprint of the law in his God given conscience by common grace.
In Christ God is restoring man to be true Image bearers.
Jesus is the only true and pure Image bearer.
Jesus was made under the law.....He was a law keeper.
In the new covenant the law is placed within our new heart and minds. Christians are law keepers.
Not for salvation but because we are saved and are to love God and neighbors. ..Rom 13:10

I had to park where I cannot get online except on my phone....so I will resume more when I can get on my laptop.