Featured Freedom of Choice and Abortion: Would you take away that freedom? Would you make it a criminal act?

I will preface this with I am in no shape, form or manner in favor of murdering babies. (But without fail, there will be the same cacophony of naysayers just because). Nor is this thread about child molesters, rapists or pillagers.

But if God has given us freedom of choice in this instance and all others: 1 Cor. 10:23

Should we not be working diligently to make disciples who make the RIGHT choice as opposed to inflaming folks by trying to take away or make illegal their God-given right to choose to obey or disobey Him?

Just pondering.

 

It appears, IMO, that it is those Christians who look to reverse Roe v Wade or make the choice illegal who have confused the two.

So again why would we as Christians work to take away as legal a choice that God has said is permissible?

It is a CHOICE to decide to do what's right and what is wrong. Which again is consistent with Scripture saying that all things are permissible. A person has the God given right to choose to do right or wrong. So how would Christians pushing to legislate against the choice to make that decision be consistent with Scripture?

Shouldn't our answer always be the Holy Spirit and working to point people toward Christ?

Has anyone ever wondered how a nation that somewhat at least "seemed" to revere God, got to the point that the killing of babies ever got to be something that people would even consider?

Did we cede the ground that God had given us by not making disciples and the inevitable moved into the void?

 

Yes I would. Because people are already choosing right and wrong as God has given them the choice. People are already, everyday, exercising their freedom of choice to murder or to not murder someone. So again, why would I, as a follower of Christ, legislate to keep them from making a choice?

And if, as was mentioned, the civil law allows or doesn't allow something. It doesn't take away the choice to let you decide to do or not do something.

 

No TC. I'm asking does it serve the purpose of Christ for Christians to be pushing to take away the ability of other Christians (because I'm assuming the "all things are permissible" was directed to us) to make a choice where this is concerned?

If a Christian said to their Christian son, I forbid you to keep getting drunk, would it make sense to push for legislation to outlaw alcohol? Would he not find a way to make a choice to get it and get drunk if he really wanted? Isn't that the way it used to be for abortion, and one of the reasons women were getting the "back-alley" abortions?

 

I understand that too. But should the way of the Christian be to push to help make it illegal to make a choice, when again, Scripture says that all things are permissible? Or in my words, God says you can make the choice to do whatever you want to do, BUT...

 

But is THAT what they are hearing Scarlett? Or are they hearing us telling them that they don't have the right to make a choice about what to do with their bodies?

You're going left here lol. I think we're aware that what you're saying is the truth. But when people feel like you've taken away or are pushing to take away their ability to make a choice, they aren't gonna hear anything else.

Should we not be doing those things that give us a platform to share the Gospel as opposed to taking it away?

 

I didn't say remain silent. You don't remain silent and make disciples.

And THAT is not what I said.

That's one of the reasons I gave several translations of the passage. But if lawful, permissible and whatever other term Biblical translators have used interchangeably in that passage can be correctly used interchangeably, why would anyone contextually not believe that it is lawful/permissible/I have the right/I am allowed? Is that not what it says?

It doesn't say that it is RIGHT or there are no consequences, but it does essentially say you can do it if you choose.

We open the door to false teaching and opinion when we interject probably. Why not just deal with what the Scripture actually says?

That may be. But how would that take away from one's ability to still have the choice of making such a mistake or not?

 

Since when has THAT become a truth?God has given every man the freedom of choice to choose Him, that which is Good, or that which is against Him.

That's what I said.

Don, I don't believe that I said "their right to DO evil". I said that they have been given the right from God to choose to obey or disobey. There's a difference. .

What I'm asking is what I asked. What it does is give you the opportunity to explain why what they want to make the choice to do is wrong. So either we're trying to win the argument, or we're trying to point people to Christ? Which one is it?

How would pushing to take away a choice given by God aid in pointing them towards God?

Wouldn't it figure that God said what He said the way that HE said it with purpose?

So are we gonna continue to push people to throw up a wall and not receive anything from us because we want to make illegal a choice God says they get to make? Or do we roll with what God says and say yes, you do have the right to make this choice, but let me tell you why God desires that you make another choice?

You're skipping ahead. I'm not talking about the GETTING an abortion. I'm talking about making the CHOICE. That's what they are hearing is that we are telling them they don't even have the right to make the choice to do or not do. And THAT is inconsistent with what Scripture says.

I didn't mix it. You'll have to ask that of the person who brought it up. I simply responded to what they said.

I'm sure it would help your tone if I had said that.

Did you not read the OP?

 

Absolutely. That's why it shouldn't be encouraging laws that get in the way of explaining to people why they have a choice and who gave it to them.