Don't bring election into this. It is not a thread on Calvinism.
Sorry to confuse you with the facts.
When you speak of the tekna you speak of the children of promise....that concerns the biblical teaching of election...
it is a biblical teaching and NOT dealing with the Calvinism you hate. It deals with Godly teachers who know and understand truth, as opposed to you who are wrong over and over again..
It looks like your KJ link is not helping you come to truth , whereas my Old Dead theologians and confessions and catechisms hold up just fine
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh,[sperma} these are not the children [tekna}of God: but the children of the promise [tekna]are counted for the seed.
from preceptaustin;
Romans 9:8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants.
Greek: tout' estin, (3SPAI) ou ta tekna tes sarkos tauta tekna tou theou, alla ta tekna tes epaggelias logizetai (3SPPI) eis sperma
Wuest: That is, not the children of the flesh, these are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted for offspring;
Young's Literal: that is, the children of the flesh -- these are not children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for seed;
Teknon - 99x in 91v - Matt 2:18; 3:9; 7:11; 9:2; 10:21; 15:26; 18:25; 19:29; 21:28; 22:24; 23:37; 27:25; Mark 2:5; 7:27; 10:24, 29f; 12:19; 13:12; Luke 1:7, 17; 2:48; 3:8; 7:35; 11:13; 13:34; 14:26; 15:31; 16:25; 18:29; 19:44; 20:31; 23:28; John 1:12; 8:39; 11:52; Acts 2:39; 7:5; 13:33; 21:5, 21; Rom 8:16f, 21; 9:7f; 1 Cor 4:14, 17; 7:14; 2 Cor 6:13; 12:14; Gal 4:19, 25, 27f, 31; Eph 2:3; 5:1, 8; 6:1, 4; Phil 2:15, 22; Col 3:20f; 1 Thess 2:7, 11; 1 Tim 1:2, 18; 3:4, 12; 5:4; 2 Tim 1:2; 2:1; Titus 1:4, 6; Philemon 1:10; 1 Pet 1:14; 3:6; 2 Pet 2:14; 1 John 3:1f, 10; 5:2; 2 John 1:1, 4, 13; 3 John 1:4; Rev 2:23; 12:4f. NAS = child(13), children(76), children's(2), son(8), sons(1).
Descendants (4690) (sperma from speíro = to sow) refers to seed sown as containing the germ of new fruit and here clearly represents the physical offspring of Abraham.
Sperma - 43x NAS - children(7), conceive*(1), descendant(4), descendants(16), posterity(1), seed(10), seeds(4).
For anyone who desires to learn truth...here you go.