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They do coexist Steve - they are in the same universe. In the Book of Job satan stands before God and has a confrontation with Him; how can that happen in they don't coexist?-
The scripture you quote says they don't have any communion or fellowship not that they don't coexist.

Also in the Revelation satan shows up in the local church of Pergamos to persecute the children of God:

Revelation 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

Coexist - Yes.
Communion and/or fellowship - No.

HankD

 

John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

Everybody is christ's to fulfill His purpose in their own way even the wicked with whom He will do with whatever He pleases and will consign them to wherever He pleases.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

NKJV Psalm 115:3 But our God is in heaven; He does whatever He pleases.

SC, with a moniker like Sovereign Grace you shouldn't have a problem with this concept - all are God's to do with what He pleases and fulfill His purposes in glorifying Himself.

HankD

 

• Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him. John 11:9,10

Is that taking place in the world today at the same time. Some walking in the light of God and some walking in the darkness of Satan?
Is that not the way it will be until the time of Rev. 21 and 22?

And no I do not believe light and darkness can co exist in one born of God. Presently there some who are of the light and there others who are of the darkness.

 

I thought it was a rhetorical question. But no, the first thing I would do is ask the other deacons to make a visit to him and attempt to find out why so great a fall from grace and make an attempt at restoration.

If he continued to walk after the flesh then we would have to ask him to take a leave of absence (at very least) hoping that repentance would follow the chastisement that would most certainly follow if he were indeed a child of God.

But if any brother/sister walked after the flesh (in darkness) in such a manner as you have given we would have reason to believe that perhaps they were never really born again. Although (but unlikely) an individual who claimed Christ as Lord and Savior and practiced such a life style could possibly be a wanderer from the flock.

Like I said, I believe this discussion has devolved into a case of semantic differences.

Hopefully we all learned.

HankD

 

This does not address the O/P question concerning the coexistence of light and darkness (As it stands) because it does not say "in the believer" but leaves the scope of the subject to the listener.

But the Thratyra believers were the servants of Christ yet they were seduced to "commit porneia".

Though they themselves were of the light they were committing deeds of darkness.

HankD

 

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

Let's look at the OP in this context.

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Matt 4:14

Can 1 John 1:5 be said of anyone while still flesh and blood? Do you think 1 John 1:5 will be able to be said of anyone post 1 Cor 15:51-53?

 

Post - meaning after our resurrection, yes.
When He returns we will be like Him because we shall see Him as He is.

HankD

 

Yes, after the resurrection. Will there be any darkness in us at all, after the resurrection. Will we then be unable to sin?

 

Your sentence proves my point of semantic differences. I emboldened the prepositions used.
Either can be true depending on the passage context and the Koine Greek prepositions.

Paul writing to the Romans warns them not to live "after" the flesh.

Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

I would agree that they cannot live after the flesh without reaping the result which is "ye shall die".

HankD

 

Actually the title of the thread "Can light and darkness co-exist? which is what caused my personal objection because they do co-exist in the scope of the entire universe. In the temptation in the wilderness Christ and satan co-existing in the desert clashed, proving that light and darkness did indeed co-exist even to the point of hostile communication.

However there was of course no communion between the two.

I think one passage in scripture which would be a point of agreement would be:

Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

Light and darkness can never walk together or be in agreement.

HankD

 

I have certainly enjoyed this thread.

Darkness will never be extinguished.

As I recall, is not the "outer darkness" eternal?

Do not the redeemed able to see the smoke rising out of the pit from the gates of the new heaven?

So, does not darkness and light co-exist even at that time?

 

You're right but they can be right next to each other.

In the life of any believer that has lust, lies, immorality, theft, jealousy, envy, gossip, gluttony, or selfishness in any part of his personal temple...then those parts have darkness and the darkness will stay there until the sins are confessed. "Give no place (Greek = Topos, 'room, chamber') to the devil.' Eph. 4:27. Think about it: why would the Holy Spirit move on Paul to pen those words warning against the mingling of light and darkness in the soul if it was not possible in the first place.