Featured Cruz supports corporal punishment. How 'bout you?

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Proverbs 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

What does scripture say?

 

An article by J. Aigner from last week:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/ponderanew/2016/04/27/why-christians-must-stop-hitting-their-children/

 

I had no idea that beating up an adult for exercising free speech was the same thing as disciplining a child for disobedience. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

Some children don't respond to that though. Each has to be disciplined in a way that reaches them.

 

Corporal punishment is a tool that should be used, however today (judging from stories and opinions I've heard from peers) it is an oft misunderstood and misused tool. It must be administered in love, and not out of frustration. Personally, I rarely use it unless I have to, as I am a man prone to anger. I realize that if I were to spank my children, many times I would be doing it in the wrong spirit. And so I look for alternate means of discipline.

Fortunately, my time as an NCO gave me great insight into discipline techniques that build up and cause no damage physically or psychologically.

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One of the areas of caution that young parents must attend is the public perception of discipline that uses any manner of striking a child.

Lawyer: Mr. Edwards, have you ever spanked your child?

Defendant: Yes Sir, when he needed it.

Lawyer: Did you strike your child when he displeased you?

Defendant: Yes, when he disobeyed me or lied to me.

Lawyer: Then the court should allow people to strike other people when they are displeased or lied too?

Defendant: If it is their child.

Lawyer: Is the child not a person?

Defendant: Of course they are a person.

Lawyer: Then can you explain to the court why it is wrong to strike a person, but it is right for a parent to strike a person. Are you suggesting to the court that all parents should have the right to strike a person but non-parents shouldn't have that right?

Defendant: Huh?

Lawyer: When you beat your child, was he a person? What right do you have to beat a person?



It is Scriptural to use such punishment, but in the modern times, it must be done with much caution and care.

The inconsistency of discipline is more harmful than consistency. If a parent is consistent, the manner of discipline rarely needs to be striking a child.

 

A portion of Hebrews 12 gives us a model of chastisement from our father in heaven...

Hebrews 12
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

The strongest word used is in verse 6 - scourge - Grk mastigo.
In 4 different lexicons this word is defined as scourge or whip.

Obviously God does not mean for us to scourge our children in the manner that Jesus was scourged by Pilate but (IMO) shows that corporal punishment is acceptable by God as a method of chastisement for our earthly children.

Sometimes the "words of wisdom" must of necessity be applied to the "seat of knowledge".

The authorities of this world (well in our society) are the epitome of hypocrisy by criticizing corporal punishment of children - these same authorities have made it legal to put them to death via a meat grinder or poisoning them or cutting them into pieces.

One of the most dangerous places in our society for a child is not the family home but a woman's womb.

HankD

 

A missionary friend had to hurriedly leave Norway with his family of 6 because a neighbor reported that he had spanked a child, and he suspected that the authorities were about to take his kids from their home. He hopes to return (alone) and pack/move their belongings, without being arrested.

We had a small paddle that had on one side, "Do not strike your child in the face; nature provided a better place." It was kept in a place known only by family, and whenever used (seldom, thankfully), the child's name and the date was written on the reverse side. We wanted it to be clear that this type of discipline was never done lightly or thoughtlessly, and except at discipline time the paddle stayed in its hiding place, the incidents forgiven and not brought up again. (Kids are long grown and on their own, and the paddle probably went through the woodstove years ago.)

 

I don't see why Capital punishment would be wrong for them. Now the whole crowd doing it in the case Trump suggested might be wrong.

 

Agree 100%, but I don't think that just because your child doesn't respond with reason that it gives you the right to spank them with a belt every time they do something wrong. there are other ways to go about discipline, like taking away objects (phones, laptops, TV time, etc.) or maybe forcing them to do extra chores/chores they wouldn't normally have to do.

 

I'm not sure either. Clarification would help.

 

Another way is to give them an allowance based on the chores they are assigned.
Then withhold some or all of their allowance for infractions.
Yes, some folks think this is crass but I felt better doing this than administering corporal punishment.
And it was very effective along with establishing the relationship of work and money.

HankD

 

Yes, I'm for corporal punishment. If a corporal breaks the rules he has to face the penalties,.

 

God supports/commands corporal punishment and I follow God.