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But that is just the opposite of the OP, This is saying WE are the ones that sinned and were condemned and cast into darkness,(actually darkness was created for us) Gen 1. The "angels" that fell are sinners, We are sinners, Did God choose to redeem one set of created beings, and not another? and yet God is not a respecter of persons ?

How about God paid for ALL sin. Sin is spiritual not physical.

Actually Mormonism is closer Islam than it is to Christianity

 

When was a soul created? Man is more than flesh and blood.

 

Job 32:9

Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.


So it is your position that God creates man, places him in the same place as those who were already condemned, and watches man fall just so He can save some and send others to eternal torment?

Basically, God created some, and being omniscient , send to torment them eternally?

sound like a lie of the devil to impune God's righteousness.

 

Actually the emphasis is on "living" soul. as opposed to the spiritually "dead" soul that he was before being quickened .

Jesus said one must be born of flesh first, to be born of the spirit second.

Do you understand?

 

You are not related to Gabriel, thee is NO RELATION AMONG THE HOST of Heaven. We are All unique individual creation. GOD is Father to all He created.

 

It is plainly revealed,

Jesus says John 10:34 Ye are gods ("elohyim")

 

Thanks for an intelligent response, I believe I have read this from Sprugeon long ago, it is applying one circumstance to other uses. It is correctly applied as men as judges in ceremonial matters (as compared to civil judges ) However, "yea are gods" of these verses mentioned and "sons of god" is referring to sinful ex heavenly beings or spiritual aspects of men. In Psalms 82 God is clearly speaking in heaven to heavenly beings, yet Jesus is responding to accusation of blasphemy, speaking to evil men the same words.

notice Job 38:7 There are two groups that responded to physical creation, one group represented by the light in heaven sang , the other shouted with surprise.

gods. sons of gods ,elohyim, heavenly hosts, etc clearly no men.... except in the one instance as appointed spiritual judges

 

Most late English translation carry bias from the earlier ones. But that is not the point here, I thought you did need guidance because you are not responding appropriately to the posts.

 

I assume the moderators are reading as well,

Psalm 82Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
82 -- A Psalm of Asaph. God hath stood in the company of God, In the midst God doth judge.

2 Till when do ye judge perversely? And the face of the wicked lift up? Selah.

3 Judge ye the weak and fatherless, The afflicted and the poor declare righteous.

4 Let the weak and needy escape, From the hand of the wicked deliver them.

5 They knew not, nor do they understand, In darkness they walk habitually, Moved are all the foundations of earth.

6 I -- I have said, `Gods ye [are], And sons of the Most High -- all of you,

7 But as man ye die, and as one of the heads ye fall,

8 Rise, O God, judge the earth, For Thou hast inheritance among all the nations!

John 10

33 The Jews answered him, saying, `For a good work we do not stone thee, but for evil speaking, and because thou, being a man, dost make thyself God.'

34 Jesus answered them, `Is it not having been written in your law: I said, ye are gods?

35 if them he did call gods unto whom the word of God came, (and the Writing is not able to be broken,)


so did Jesus misunderstand,?

He was being accused of saying He was God . He responded from scripture "ye are god" or elohyim .the heaven hosts or supernatural beings

I plainly accept the words of Jesus as TRUTH

 

Has every human throughout history been also a spiritual being, or rather has every human in history had a soul? Can you prove , one way or another?