Featured Mary, Salvation, and Sin Offering

The RCC is off the deep end on their theology and practices.

--Proclaim a sinless Mary who carried Jesus while being sinless
--Eat a wafer and drink wine, blindly thinking it is literally Christ
--Go to a 'father'and confesx their sins to him
--Pray to Jesus via Mary
--Have killed millions to propagate their beliefs
--Worship the Pope and treat him as their head of their church

These things do not bother you?!?!?

 

They are correct and yet millions, probably billions are being deceived straight into hell by their evil teachings.

Where is this stated in the bible Mary was sinless? You have not one scintilla of biblical proof to prove this.

This is a gross misapplication of John 6 where Jesus said except you eat of His flesh and drink of His blood...Now, as Brother Protestant previously stated, in the OT, t was prophesied that not one bone of Jesus' body would be broken. Yet, whilst partaking of His 'body', you guys break it. Therefore, you are desecrating His body in that manner.

Praying for each other is not what I was referring to. I meant that you guys go and confess to your 'father'(another clear gross error as only God is Father) and then he then goes and prays for you, too. You guys have the 'father' acting as a 'christ', as a mediator.

I agree that non-RCC have killed many. But, the RCC en toto have killed more than probably any war has throughout the history of time.

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Plus, look at all the pedophilia that has taken place throughout time. It not just a localized event, but permeates throughout the whole RCC worldwide.

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Gabriel told Mary, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God."[Luke 1:30] Now, the word 'favor' means 'grace', which she would not have received from God if she was sinless.

Then we can read "When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth."[Luke 2:39] Now, what did the Law require? For the women after childbirth to present an offering for sin sacrifice, which is found in Leviticus 12.

Mary, the mother of Christ, was not sinless.

 

Huh?

Lemme see...

--Advocates transubstantiation where the wafer literally becomes Jesus' body and then goes against the prophecy that not one bone of His body would be broken
--Whatever city the Pope comes to, he gets hordes of ppl thronging him like he's a rock star
--Believe Mary was sinless
--Believe in purgatory where ppl upon death, are in 'limbo' on their eternal destiny
--Pray to their 'father' who then confesses their sins to God
--Their local leader goes by the appellation 'father' which violates Matthew 23:9
--Has killed millions upon millions to advocate their ideologies
--Kept the bible from their minions so that no one could read it for themselves
--RCC had the Spanish, Roman, Episcopal(Medieval), Papal, and Portuguese inquisitions that slaughtered everyone they deemed as heretics
--Has had rampant pedophilia throughout the whole organization. Not just local, but worldwide

Please flee this whore.

 

Mary didn't exactly call herself a sinner. Her exact words were: "My spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior." Mary was indeed saved, only her salvation occurred before she was conceived. That it why we call it the Immaculate Conception. If Mary were a sinner, there is no way the angel could have addressed her as "full of grace."

 

That sounds good and all, but it is devoid of any verifiable bible support. In Matthew 1 we read This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.” All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”). When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.[Matthew 1:18-25] There is not one shred of evidence Mary, the mother of Jesus, was sinless. She was a virgin and she and Joseph never had intercourse until after He was born. But that does not mean she was sinless.

Then in Luke 2, we can read When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth[Luke 2:39] which goes back to Leviticus 12 and ‘A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period.'[Leviticus 12:2] And then we can also read in that same chapter Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding.[Leviticus 12:4-5] And furthermore we can read “‘When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. He shall offer them before the Lord to make atonement for her, and then she will be ceremonially clean from her flow of blood. “‘These are the regulations for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl. But if she cannot afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.”[Leviticus 12:6-8] Mary, at the time of Jesus' birth, was still under the Law, and she had to do this as well as all other women who were under the Law.

Because it is unfounded in the record of God.

And what do ppl repent of? Sin. You are saying Mary was sinless, which makes her equal with God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit. That is pure blasphemy. Then you double down this blasphemy by saying ppl can live in a full state of grace...I.E...live sinless lives.

 

Then I guess Noah was the same as Mary, too, seeing he found grace in God's sight?

 

Yes.

No.

When we sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Christ Jesus our Lord. There may be some of the OSAS that hold to that view as you mentioned, but not the vast majority. What is meant by OSAS or Eternal Security is that when we sin, Christ pleads our case for us, as He is our Advocate before the Father. We also repent when we sin. In 1 John 3, John explicitly wrote No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: [1 John 3:9-10] Those who continue to sin, not those who sin and repent...but those who continue sinning without repenting, show they have not been born of God.

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Adonia, please do not take my brusqueness as me being mean to you. If I did not love you, I would leave you alone. But being a preacher of God's word, it's my bounden duty to proclaim Christ to you. Christ is not found in a wafer and wine, no more than He was found in Dagon, Moloch, or any other OT idol. We do not confess to another man our sins so that he can then plead them to God on our behalf. We do not call others by the appellation 'father', either.

Look at all the RCC teaches for instances...

--Mary was sinless, making her on the same level of the triune God...blasphemous
--The RCC prays to Jesus through Mary, making them idolators
--The RCC confess their sins to the 'father', who then acts as their intercessor before the Father...idolatrous
--Believe a wafer and wine are on the same level of Jesus...idolatrous
--Desecrates that 'body' by breaking it, when scripture foretold not one bone would be broken..contradicts biblical prophecy