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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, May 16, 2016.

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  1. TCassidy

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    You misspelled "resemble." :D
     
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    True the apples from 1989 were either the Apple II or some very old Macintoshes such as the Plus or SE. Those are in museums these days or to be found on eBay.
     
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    True and this is what makes the newer OS X system so much better than the older Mac OS system (prior to OSX). I have used Macs for more than 20 years and have seen them get better and better and better...
     
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    My conclusion. In the business world you may be better off with Windows since there are so many more business applications that run on it. However at home I say go with the Mac.
     
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    Nah. I still have access to many more games on the PC than on Apple; I have access to LOTS of software comparable to Apple's; I just don't see the need to spend on an Apple when I can spend less on a PC and do the same amount/level of work. It's encouraging fiscal irresponsibility to advise otherwise.
     
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    I disagree with you. I think you need quality time with a Mac and it will win you over.
     
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    Tell me about the joys of managing music files on a Mac for use in your vehicle via a USB thumb drive.

    Let's say I want to store music files locally on my computer without going through iTunes. Then I want to copy a couple dozen songs to a USB stick so I can play them through my home stereo system or in my car. Easily accomplished? Or a hassle?

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    Why not use a iPhone via bluetooth or a iPod via USB? Would that not be 10 times easier?

    On a Mac you work through iTunes. If you want to avoid iTunes and use a USB drive then you may need to download 3rd party software.

    As for me I have a iPod nano and use it all the time to play podcasts and music in my car. 10 times easier than using a USB flash drive.
     
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    Not so fast. My hubby's first computer was a PDP8. I hear him talking about the stuff he worked on (with punch cards and such). He's a computer software and hardware engineer, making the first digital audio recording console that could go to 64 tracks. That was in 1988, I believe. Someone finally made the second one just last year. He definitely knows computers. He's a hardcore Mac guy. He's built computers, rebuilt computers, programmed computers and what does he like about Mac? "They just work." That's it. They work. They do what they are supposed to do. They excel in graphics, media and audio. They do this straight out of the box. There's a reason pretty much every recording studio and every film studio now use Macs. They just work.

    PCs are OK but in order to get them to "just work", you need to do a lot of add ons, programming and the like. That's really not needed for the Mac. :)
     
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    No. With bluetooth you lose some fidelity. Also, maybe a person's vehicle doesn't have bluetooth. With an iPod you need a whole different and expensive device and you need a patch cord.


    So there is no way to avoid using iTunes? No way to have your music or other audio files outside of Apple's cloud storage? They control your music, in other words.

    A patch cord plugged into the USB port. I presume you remove the iPod from your vehicle, so everytime you plug the iPod back into the USB port your car stereo unit needs to reindex the iPod songlists.

    I used a USB thumb drive as an easy to understand example. I have a 32 GB SD card in my truck with all my music on it. What could be easier than having your music library already installed and indexed in your vehicle?

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    You misunderstand. I'm an IT guy, in an IT department. We support *everyone's* IT stuff, including those that just had to have Apple products rather than the standard for the rest of the institution. Guess who's laptop won't connect to the wireless network, no matter what we try? Guess who's files do weird things when they attempt to use them on a standard work computer?

    I'm not saying Apple doesn't make a good product. Go back and read what I've written with discernment. I'm saying, if you plan on mixing/matching systems, then be ready for the headaches. And then, take a really good look at how you're using this tool. Did you spend the money on a lamborghini when a Civic would do the job and save you a lot of money? When someone tells you they only have $500 and they need a computer NOW, what do you tell them?
     
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    I would tell them to save up for a Mac or get a Mac on a credit card. I bought my Mac on a credit card last year and have paid it off.
     
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    I am aware that you lose some audio quality when going over bluetooth as I experience this when with my iPhone. The solution is to use the iPod Nano which uses USB instead, at least my Nano. Newer units have Bluetooth, but mine does not.

    Yes iTunes allows one to see the files and then you may copy the files to a USB drive if you desire. You will just need to sort out your music using the apple finder if you wish to do things this way.
     
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    Also if Apple users are experiencing issues with your network its because of the way you have set things up which is wrong. I have been on plenty of wireless networks that supported Mac. In fact everytime I fly out of Denver they have a FREE wireless network and my Mac or any apple device for that matter is able to connect to it with ease.

    At home we have three WIFI networks and my Mac is able to connect to any of them with ease. We also have PC's in the house but I do not use them, but from what I hear they also can connect to the network.
     
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    Do you leave your iPod connected in your vehicle all the time or do you remove it?

    Let's say I want to rip a CD on my computer and put the songs on a USB stick. If I have a Mac I have to upload it to iTunes first, and then transfer it to my USB stick. Correct?



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    I unplug my iPod and then plug it back in. You seem to have a negative attitude towards iTunes. I have been using it for years and it works great most of the time. It has wiped out the competition on the Mac, so you just need to get used to it.
     
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    I agree Macs do indeed just work. I remember when I had a blackberry and I was trying to get it to sync with Windows, boy what a hassle. These days of a using a iPhone and a Mac to sync it just works with few hassles. Yes sometimes I have hassles, but they are small in comparison with Windows. On the Mac I have rarely had hardware issues, and I fix all my computer problems myself. No need to use Best Buy Geek Squad or some other service, because I do all the work myself!
     
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    ^^^^ That is why I moved from anything apple years ago. In my more rebellious days I wiped a pc and switched to ubuntu...but didn't stay there long. Biggrin
     
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    Brethren don't you think that this discussion would be better suited in the Computer Forum?,,, This discussion went off topic along time ago and I for one feel that maybe others who cannot access this General Baptist Forum might benefit by the discussion that went on here... Am I out of line Brother JonC (Moderator)?... I'm only saying... Brother Glen
     
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    I thought so. So you're constantly plugging in your iPod and unplugging it. Waiting for it to connect, re-index your songs, etc. That's why I like my solution of putting all my music on an SD card and leaving it plugged into my vehicle at all times.

    I bet your vehicle can't control your iPod. Which means you are searching for music by using the controls on the iPod, and not your vehicle's audio system.

    No, it would not be 10 times easier. How about using my method? All my songs already inside my audio system and are ready to play. In fact, if I want to play a song, I simply hit the steering wheel button and speak, "Play song 'Glorious Day'", and the song starts playing. Would that not be 10 times easier than plugging an iPod into a USB port and then searching for the song on the iPod's smallish controls?


    Yes, my issue with iTunes is that anything I want to listen to on an Apple product has to go to their cloud before I can access it. Why should Apple have control over your music? No thank you.
     
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