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InTheLight

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Not so fast. My hubby's first computer was a PDP8. I hear him talking about the stuff he worked on (with punch cards and such). He's a computer software and hardware engineer, making the first digital audio recording console that could go to 64 tracks. That was in 1988, I believe. Someone finally made the second one just last year. He definitely knows computers. He's a hardcore Mac guy. He's built computers, rebuilt computers, programmed computers and what does he like about Mac? "They just work." That's it. They work. They do what they are supposed to do. They excel in graphics, media and audio. They do this straight out of the box. There's a reason pretty much every recording studio and every film studio now use Macs. They just work.

PCs are OK but in order to get them to "just work", you need to do a lot of add ons, programming and the like. That's really not needed for the Mac. :)


Yep, the electronic crayons (Macs) are great for music, graphics work, and audio production. Now, for the rest of the world that is not in the entertainment industry, the PC is the way to go. And the PC does "just work" for these other applications as well. It isn't 2001 anymore.
 

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I play a lot of video games. A lot. I bought my PC in 2010 for $400. The only upgrade I've made so far is buying a middle of the road graphics card for gaming purposes.

Firstly, the thing still runs fine. I still game on it, and it still plays the games coming out today (or tomorrow, as I'm anticipating the release of the new total war game).

Secondly, if you want to game, you go PC. Or, you cross your fingers and hope someone somewhere makes a Mac port of the game. Games are not developed with Macs in mind.

Personally, I can't stand Apple products. But that's just a preference.

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I thought so. So you're constantly plugging in your iPod and unplugging it. Waiting for it to connect, re-index your songs, etc. That's why I like my solution of putting all my music on an SD card and leaving it plugged into my vehicle at all times.

I bet your vehicle can't control your iPod. Which means you are searching for music by using the controls on the iPod, and not your vehicle's audio system.



No, it would not be 10 times easier. How about using my method? All my songs already inside my audio system and are ready to play. In fact, if I want to play a song, I simply hit the steering wheel button and speak, "Play song 'Glorious Day'", and the song starts playing. Would that not be 10 times easier than plugging an iPod into a USB port and then searching for the song on the iPod's smallish controls?




Yes, my issue with iTunes is that anything I want to listen to on an Apple product has to go to their cloud before I can access it. Why should Apple have control over your music? No thank you.

This is a niche use of a car stereo system. But regardless Macs have a SD card slot built in and if not buy a USB drive and connect the SD card and then organize the music via the Mac finder.

But even for niche uses Macs can boot Windows and run it. I am not saying Macs are for everyone or are 100% better than PC's. In my POV Macs are better in most areas but not everything.
 

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I play a lot of video games. A lot. I bought my PC in 2010 for $400. The only upgrade I've made so far is buying a middle of the road graphics card for gaming purposes.

Firstly, the thing still runs fine. I still game on it, and it still plays the games coming out today (or tomorrow, as I'm anticipating the release of the new total war game).

Secondly, if you want to game, you go PC. Or, you cross your fingers and hope someone somewhere makes a Mac port of the game. Games are not developed with Macs in mind.

Personally, I can't stand Apple products. But that's just a preference.

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Of this I agree. However since I only play one game my Mac works just fine for my taste.
 

InTheLight

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This is a niche use of a car stereo system.

No, this is the ultimate use of a car stereo system and 10 times easier than plugging and unplugging an iPod every time you want to listen to your music library.

But regardless Macs have a SD card slot built in and if not buy a USB drive and connect the SD card and then organize the music via the Mac finder.

Sure, but first I have to place any/all of my music on Apple's cloud servers before their system will work. Why is that?

But even for niche uses Macs can boot Windows and run it. I am not saying Macs are for everyone or are 100% better than PC's. In my POV Macs are better in most areas but not everything.

Macs are for musicians, graphic artists, and video editing. That's where they excel and where they've always excelled. Anything else, and that includes almost everything else in the "real" world, and the PC is the better choice.
 

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No, this is the ultimate use of a car stereo system and 10 times easier than plugging and unplugging an iPod every time you want to listen to your music library.



Sure, but first I have to place any/all of my music on Apple's cloud servers before their system will work. Why is that?



Macs are for musicians, graphic artists, and video editing. That's where they excel and where they've always excelled. Anything else, and that includes almost everything else in the "real" world, and the PC is the better choice.

Not true. You can burn a CD to your hard drive and bypass iCloud. My car does not have a SD slot but for those that do yes just insert the SD disc in your Mac and copy your music to it and it will play.
 

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Not true. You can burn a CD to your hard drive and bypass iCloud. My car does not have a SD slot but for those that do yes just insert the SD disc in your Mac and copy your music to it and it will play.

So you're saying I can rip a CD (not burn a CD) directly to my hard drive on my Mac. Then copy and paste that music from the hard drive to an SD card without needing to go through iTunes? That would be news to me.
 

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No, this is the ultimate use of a car stereo system and 10 times easier than plugging and unplugging an iPod every time you want to listen to your music library.



Sure, but first I have to place any/all of my music on Apple's cloud servers before their system will work. Why is that?



Macs are for musicians, graphic artists, and video editing. That's where they excel and where they've always excelled. Anything else, and that includes almost everything else in the "real" world, and the PC is the better choice.

Yes MS Office is better on Windows as well as Quicken and Windows just has more business software available. But for my needs the Mac is just fine.
 

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So you're saying I can rip a CD (not burn a CD) directly to my hard drive on my Mac. Then copy and paste that music from the hard drive to an SD card without needing to go through iTunes? That would be news to me.

No you go through iTunes but the music does not have to be stored in iCloud.
 

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Music that you purchase via the iTunes Store are stored in iCloud. But music that you rip to your HD via a CD are stored on your hard drive.

<Sigh> Yes, I know. But once you try to move that music onto an Apple device or onto a USB stick, it MUST go through iTunes.
 

evangelist6589

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<Sigh> Yes, I know. But once you try to move that music onto an Apple device or onto a USB stick, it MUST go through iTunes.

Yes indeed but that music does not have to be stored in iCloud. For the iPod Nano it's all stored locally. I use iTunes all the time and love it.
 

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Also if Apple users are experiencing issues with your network its because of the way you have set things up which is wrong. I have been on plenty of wireless networks that supported Mac. In fact everytime I fly out of Denver they have a FREE wireless network and my Mac or any apple device for that matter is able to connect to it with ease.

At home we have three WIFI networks and my Mac is able to connect to any of them with ease. We also have PC's in the house but I do not use them, but from what I hear they also can connect to the network.
I was going to let this go, but I need to point out: Your wireless networks examples are invalid. We don't set up free wireless internet. We set up protected internet. We have requirements at the Federal level to protect personally identifiable information, and we manipulate the settings on our network so that we minimize the risk to our employees/students addresses, social security numbers, etc. (note that I said "minimize"; anyone who claims 100% protection is asking for crackers to test that claim, and the crackers will prove them wrong every time.)

And if you're actually using the free wireless at airports and other locations, well, you should probably check your bank and credit card accounts daily, and make sure you have an antivirus installed and running.
 

evangelist6589

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I was going to let this go, but I need to point out: Your wireless networks examples are invalid. We don't set up free wireless internet. We set up protected internet. We have requirements at the Federal level to protect personally identifiable information, and we manipulate the settings on our network so that we minimize the risk to our employees/students addresses, social security numbers, etc. (note that I said "minimize"; anyone who claims 100% protection is asking for crackers to test that claim, and the crackers will prove them wrong every time.)

And if you're actually using the free wireless at airports and other locations, well, you should probably check your bank and credit card accounts daily, and make sure you have an antivirus installed and running.

Well I'm sure there are other schools and businesses that run perfectly fine with Macs on their WIFI network. The problem is the way you have set things up, its not Apples fault.
 
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