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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, May 29, 2016.

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  1. Don

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    No, you don't.
     
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    That's not what JonC was saying. Put it in context of your statement "law for the proud."
     
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    But Don, this church is his wives choice, not his. So what can you expect.
     
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    Boy Jon C is confusing and his positions.
     
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    Willis, Arthur Pink did much to clarify orthodox doctrine by his writing & Sermons. I wonder if you read into his bio & extrapolated this or did you assume something that isn't there.

    As a theologian, he well could have started his own church, however there are reasons he did not. Please look deeper into it to find the answer.

    Thanks
     
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    I do not know what you mean by this, brother. If you mean that I and my positions are confusing to you then I will explain.

    I believe that we, as ambassadors of Christ and workers in the field through which the ministry of reconciliation is being continued, should be urging all men to be reconciled to God. I believe that we are to communicate the gospel message to people the best way that we know how, relying on God to save. As such, I believe that we are free to use God's law, the moral law, the Law (not only the Ten Commandments, but also the Ceremonial Laws) in communicating the gospel to others.

    My objection is that you claim I am anti-law in evangelism, which is far from the truth. I use the law in evangelism. Is there any part of this that you do not understand?
     
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    That makes sense. Then why do you disagree with the book "What did Jesus do"? Thanks.
     
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    The book presents the only biblical method as placing men under the Ten Commandments and falsely connects failure do use this method with false conversion. It also makes several errors in interpretation by reading into text things that are not there. Several have mentioned this in the thread about the book.
     
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    I know what I *should* expect; but there's a difference between that and what I *can* expect.
     
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    Sorry, Evan; doesn't matter if you disagree. The truth is, you don't submit fully to the authority of the church to which you are a member.
     
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    Yes my pastor does, as he had tewo earned Phd, in Theology, but he does not so much on calvinist vrs arminian, but more on why homosexuality is wrong, why inferior views on bible bad, and why jesus is the real messaih and only way to God!
     
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    This is false.
     
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    Maybe he should sell everything he has & come and Follow Him.....then he will have treasures in heaven. What do you think? :Laugh
     
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    Does he live the Christian way of life....is he an example?
     
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    Oh, it's true. You posted this, just upstream from here, in this very thread:

    So you will abandon your church's evangelism methods for your own way of doing things. Therefore you are not submitting to their authority.
     
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    No, it's not. You may think it's not true, but re-read your opening post, and pretend it's me writing that message. Would you tell me that I'm submitting fully to the authority of the church of which I'm a member?

    Consider those you call "false churches": Would you say they've submitted fully to God?

    Consider: If you submit fully to God, but then complain about certain things you don't like, have you submitted fully to God?

    So here's the question: If this is the church in which God has placed you (rather than placing yourself), if this is God's church (rather than a pastor's or group of the members) -- but you disagree with them, and complain about them on public message boards ... how can you honestly say that you've submitted fully to the authority of that church? And if it's the church God has placed you in, and it's God's church, how can you honestly say you've submitted fully to God?
     
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    yes he does, as he would state that the ultimate test is know how much of the Bible you know, but how much that you apply to your own daily life!
     
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    No I evangelize the Way of the Master as Jesus is the master.
     
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    Look, we are to judge them within(church) and God judges them without. If a fellow member lives no differently than the world...I am talking about an extended period of time, then Matthew 18 needs to be used.

    When christians sin...and they do...they repent. When the world sins, they do not. A christian life is rife with repentance.

    If the world can not tell me from the world, something is amiss.
     
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    I am in error for posting these kinds of threads no doubt.
     
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