• Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Southern Baptist leader: Donald Trump a ‘lost’ soul’ who must repent

Status
Not open for further replies.

Zaac

Well-Known Member
Southern Baptist leader: Donald Trump a ‘lost’ soul’ who must repent

(RNS) Southern Baptist leader Russell Moore has not been shy about mixing it up with Donald Trump, and now Moore is at it again, telling an interviewer that the presumptive Republican presidential nominee is a “lost person” who needs to find Jesus.

“My primary prayer for Donald Trump is that he would first of all repent of sin and come to faith in Jesus Christ,” Moore told David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network in a video posted Friday (June 3). “That’s my prayer for any lost person.”

Moore, who as head of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention is the denomination’s chief policy spokesman, has been one of the most stalwart evangelical critics of Trump.

Moore has for months blasted what he sees as Trump’s boorish behavior and character flaws, and last month he ramped it up with pointed comments in an op-ed in The New York Times and an appearance on “Face the Nation.”

Trump’s campaign was “reality television moral sewage,” he told “Face the Nation,” and in the Times he criticized Trump’s followers — many of whom are Moore’s fellow evangelicals — for using racist “threats and intimidation” tactics.

Trump, who is hardly shy about attacking his critics, struck back on Twitter — where Moore is also no shrinking violet — and the social media war was on.

Speaking to CBN’s Brody, Moore said he would also pray that a conversion for Trump — who says he is a Christian — would translate into a change in his public policies in terms of “the principles of justice” and the “American constitutional framework.”

Moore added that would also mean a change “not only in terms of the way in which he (Trump) is changing the moral character of people, including the people that are supporting him and getting on the bandwagon, having had to excuse things that they’ve never had to excuse before.”

That appeared to be a reference to the many Republican leaders — like former candidate Marco Rubio and, most recently, House Speaker Paul Ryan — who were once staunchly anti-Trump but have since embraced the likely nominee, often awkwardly given the public record of their earlier opposition.

Trump, who enjoyed strong support from white evangelicals during the primaries, has also been winning over many conservative Christians leaders, to the chagrin of Moore and other #NeverTrump diehards.

Trump will continue that lobbying effort this month when he addresses a major conference of social conservatives in Washington on Friday (June 10).

Then on June 21, some 500 conservative Christian leaders will meet with Trump in New York City for a “guided discussion” to solidify their support for him or win over any skeptics.

Moore has said he could not support either Trump or Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee; in the interview he said Clinton also needed to change, though he said she “has a different set of problems and issues” than Trump.

Signaling a potential new phase in the political role of conservative evangelicals, Moore said his primary focus “is 2017, and preparing the church to be a church which is going to have to be a sign of contradiction regardless of whether Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is in the White House.”

http://religionnews.com/2016/06/05/...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer


BRAVO Russell Moore!
 

church mouse guy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Russell Moore is an airhead. He should listen to these words of wisdom:

If we turn against each other based on division of race or religion. If-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if we fall for, you know, a bunch of okie-doke, just because, you know it-it-it. You know, it-it-it-it-it-it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative, then we’re not gonna build on the progress that we started
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
That should also be aplied towards the president, and Hillary, and bernie!
Perhaps the Jewish guy. But the neither the current President nor the lady running to be the next President have ever said that they don't need to be forgiven by God. Nor have they publicly to my knowledge done the morally despicable things that Donald Trump has in word or deed.

You might dislike the other three, and find some consolation in making them into what Moore is saying Trump is or has done, but you have nothing more than opinion and partisan politics to falsely back that up, except again with the Jewish man who rejects Jesus Christ.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
Russell Moore is an airhead. He should listen to these words of wisdom:

If we turn against each other based on division of race or religion. If-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if we fall for, you know, a bunch of okie-doke, just because, you know it-it-it. You know, it-it-it-it-it-it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative, then we’re not gonna build on the progress that we started

Sounds to me like Russell Moore is getting his wisdom from God and you're trying to turn him somewhere else.:Wink
 

church mouse guy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
If we turn against each other based on division of race or religion. If-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if we fall for, you know, a bunch of okie-doke, just because, you know it-it-it. You know, it-it-it-it-it-it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative, then we’re not gonna build on the progress that we started
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Perhaps the Jewish guy. But the neither the current President nor the lady running to be the next President have ever said that they don't need to be forgiven by God. Nor have they publicly to my knowledge done the morally despicable things that Donald Trump has in word or deed.

You might dislike the other three, and find some consolation in making them into what Moore is saying Trump is or has done, but you have nothing more than opinion and partisan politics to falsely back that up, except again with the Jewish man who rejects Jesus Christ.

Actually, BOTH he president and Mrs Clinton have made claims to being Christian, and we can only judge them by their fruits, which are pretty much anti Christian and against the Lord as staed in the scriptures, as shown by nearly every major decision and program they get behind!

And would you consider jesus and paul as being homophobes, racist, and Anti gender, as both of them were pretty clear and against the perversions in these areas getting pushed forward today!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Russell Moore is an airhead. He should listen to these words of wisdom:

If we turn against each other based on division of race or religion. If-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if we fall for, you know, a bunch of okie-doke, just because, you know it-it-it. You know, it-it-it-it-it-it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative, then we’re not gonna build on the progress that we started

LOL.......Also I dont think "The Donald" is planning on ushering in Socialism.....nor have I seen him kill anyone! :Wink
 

InTheLight

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Actually, BOTH he president and Mrs Clinton have made claims to being Christian, and we can only judge them by their fruits, which are pretty much anti Christian and against the Lord as staed in the scriptures, as shown by nearly every major decision and program they get behind!

Trump: "I've never asked God for forgiveness, I don't think so."

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

So, no, based on God's Word, Donald Trump is not a Christian.
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Trump: "I've never asked God for forgiveness, I don't think so."

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

So, no, based on God's Word, Donald Trump is not a Christian.

Neither would the other 3 pf them listed here running for President, based upon their fruit though!
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
Actually, BOTH he president and Mrs Clinton have made claims to being Christian, and we can only judge them by their fruits, which are pretty much anti Christian and against the Lord as staed in the scriptures, as shown by nearly every major decision and program they get behind!

And would you consider jesus and paul as being homophobes, racist, and Anti gender, as both of them were pretty clear and against the perversions in these areas getting pushed forward today!

A lot of the same can be said about the anti love of neighbor and we're against everything policies of the GOP.

And again no-one said to not be against what Christ is against. But if you're against what Christ is against minus His love, then the lack of fruit from you is the same as the non Christian. And that seems to be a consistent problem from political conservatives who say they are Christians and who again seem more enthused to win the argument than to see people saved or pointed to Christ.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
Really!!! so by supporting the gay marriage & abortion agenda is........oh never mind. :Frown
Ain't no need to never mind. It's simple. If you as a follower of Christ are making all of these judgments absent the love of Christ, there's no difference in the sinful words coming from your mouth and the sinful words coming from the mouths of anyone supporting what is against God's word. You're both sinning and doing the same damage.

It would be stupid to think otherwise.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Ain't no need to never mind. It's simple. If you as a follower of Christ are making all of these judgments absent the love of Christ, there's no difference in the sinful words coming from your mouth and the sinful words coming from the mouths of anyone supporting what is against God's word. You're both sinning and doing the same damage.

It would be stupid to think otherwise.

I agree that true Christians first have to have the love of Christ in your heart. That's why I would never, ever vote for anyone who is for abortion or a socialist society. Primarily because they (by supporting those a fore mentioned), are enemies of Christ & his people.....no OKEY DOKE here!
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
I agree that true Christians first have to have the love of Christ in your heart. That's why I would never, ever vote for anyone who is for abortion or a socialist society. Primarily because they (by supporting those a fore mentioned), are enemies of Christ & his people.....no OKEY DOKE here!

As are the ones who profess the things of Christ absent the love of Christ. You vote for those who are for capital punishment.

Life is life.

And don't confuse what you wouldn't support with what Christ wouldn't support.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
As are the ones who profess the things of Christ absent the love of Christ. You vote for those who are for capital punishment.

Life is life.

And don't confuse what you wouldn't support with what Christ wouldn't support.

Now it is you who is judging! I never said I would vote for anyone......But take note that in Moses law, their is capital punishment.
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
God approved of capital punishment in Genesis, and reaffirmed in Romans, and again, JESUS would be strongly against views of radical homosexuals/lesbians/transgender crowd, so why aren't you?

God is love, but he also is Holy and rightious, and you seem to want one at the excuse of the other!
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
Now it is you who is judging!
I'm called by Scripture to righteously judge all things.

I never said I would vote for anyone......But take note that in Moses law, their is capital punishment.

You already DID vote for someone so you didn't have to say it.

There's also divorce. But the secular government can do whatever it wants. That doesn't mean that it's justified before Christ. There was a lot of stuff before the grace and mercy of Christ on the Cross.

The lunacy of complaining about the government legalizing the sucking of babies out of their mother's womb while approving of the same government legalizing the killing of adults is beyond silly. It's so ridiculously silly that a new word other than hypocritical needs to be created.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top