Featured Another thought concerning the blood. Scriptural or not?

"We are all sinners by nature ,therefore we are held under the yoke of sin . But if the whole man is subject to the dominion of sin , surely the will , which is it's principal seat , must be bound with the closest of chains. And indeed if divine grace were preceded by any will of ours, Paul could not have said that ," it is God that worketh in us to will and to do " (Phil. 2:13) - John Calvin

This speaks of and to believers. Whatever we do in our freedom apart from punctiliar sin is ultimately the will of God.

The reproving Spirit of truth constantly abides with the lost to convince them of sin ready and waiting to give the power to turn.

Conflation - Chapter and verse? I can't seem to find that word - conflation - in the bible.
OBTW it was broiled rib steak tonight.

Free will exists at every level.
I may want to visit Italy but unless I am provided the means to get there I cannot exercise my will.
So I do have the will but not the means.
John Bunyan wanted to be forgiven of his sons but it was several years before the Spirit of God translated him.
"My sins rolled down to the cross and were gone" he had the will but not the means.

Not on his own merits but on the merit of the death burial and resurrection from the dead of Jesus Christ.

Yes those who are continuously given over to sin (present participle sinners) are slaves to sin but will be freed by turning to Christ. I believe all have that ability to turn at their disposal.
Not in their own power or ability but the power of the enlightenment of the almighty of their sinful status.

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

OK but it seems that hearing comes first
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

Yes it is selective - "they that hear" but they are indeed dead when He speaks.

Mark 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Ironic.

HankD

 

I never said the law of sin and death did not exist at every level.
I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
You are putting words in my mouth or at least attributing to me something I never said.

I also never made a claim that what I am having for dinner disproves the law of sin and death.

The law of sin and death coexists with man's free will at every level.

con·flate
verb
gerund or present participle: conflating
combine (two or more texts, ideas, etc.) into one.

I did indicate that making a difference between man's ability to choose and man's free will is not a conflation.
To which two or more biblical principle(s) are you alluding that leads to my view of man's free will?

HankD

 

Oh, OK - Though the unsaved man is technically in bondage to sin and death, I believe I said the ability to turn to God from sin and death is at their disposal.

Here God is speaking with a man obviously dead under the law of sin and death:

Genesis 4
6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Presumably "doest well " - yatab - is synonymous in this context with "exercise faith" (unless God is deceiving him and us).

HankD

 

How then is anyone saved seeing we ALL come into the world this way?

No one can be saved because we all come into this world under the law of sin and death at enmity with God.

Unless of course God intervenes and obviously He has or again, no one would be saved since we are ALL in this condition before our redemption.

My view is that every human being (not just the "elect") is afforded this special intervention and enlightenment of God the Holy Spirit otherwise no one would/could be saved. So say the scripture...

John 16
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

The elect freely choose to come and drink of the water of life, the others not so.

No one's free will is violated, God's sovereignty is not violated. God is glorified.

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

HankD

 

This is the only statement I will address: methinks you should of said "Me thinks you seriously misunderstand Calvin"

I know I don't fit anyone's mold which did cause a bit of grief to my professors to this very day.
Not that I'm proud to be a mugwump cuz it dies get lonely on occasion.
Also I was once a 5 point calvinist until I went to Bible school.

I'm not going to change Tom.


HankD

 

Calvin has BO, I recognized the odor.

Sure. Feel free.



HankD

 

Actually now that you mention it, it did smell like TULIPs.

HankD

 

But I do have hay fever when it comes to TULIPs,

HankD

 

Well said

 

Those who have been washed, and those who want to be.

 

Thank you, Sir

 

I know it's hard to imagine/envision but in reality there is no sequence of events in eternity.

It' sounds silly but time is a necessary entity so that things do not happen all at once and that there also is in the time continuum an apparent order and sequence of events.

Even the passage of time has an apparent misapplication for the sequence of events versus the collection of necessary events:

Galatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.

fullness - pleroma - with the time
Louw-Nida Lexicon 05202 a) Contents; b) Completeness; d) full; e) enough; a quantity which fills a space.

At least three events had to be in the collection of events... made (ginomai) of a woman, made (ginomai) under (hupo-subject to) the law.

Made of a woman.
Made under the Law.
Subject to the Law.

HankD

 

Beware of those who say "I'm in the club and you're not".