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Featured Trump And His Press Secretary Flagrantly Lied On Their First Full Day In Office. That Matters.

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    On Saturday, President Donald Trump’s first full day in office, he gave a speech at CIA headquarters in which he lied about the size of the crowd at his inauguration and falsely claimed that he had never feuded with the U.S. intelligence community. Hours later, his press secretary emerged from the West Wing, lied about the size of the inaugural crowd and took no questions.

    The most important news here is not the crowd size, or whether Trump feuded with America’s spies (he did), or even that the president and his press secretary lied. Politicians lie. What’s remarkable is that the president and his administration chose to lie, repeatedly, on their first full day on the job, about a relatively trivial ― and easily checkable ― matter.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._us_5884104ae4b0e3a735699697?ej30ijv3c2kb7qfr


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    #1 Crabtownboy, Jan 22, 2017
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    From the Huffing and Puffing Post you cited
    WHAT!? Journalist pontificating about the truth!?

    :Roflmao

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    #2 HankD, Jan 22, 2017
  3. InTheLight

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    Here is CNN's headline:

    White House press secretary attacks media for accurately reporting inauguration crowds



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    #3 InTheLight, Jan 22, 2017
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    "This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period," Spicer said, contradicting all available data.

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    #4 InTheLight, Jan 22, 2017
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    CNN - Of course they are the DNC mouthpiece :)

    Have a great LORD's Day ITL - off to church.

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    So what, he is still the POTUS.

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    #6 HankD, Jan 22, 2017
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    Ah, and he is still a chronic liar. There seems to be no honesty within him. He seems to have only one agenda and that is how great he is. Why would he even bring up the subject. There are many more important world problems for him to address.

    We are in great trouble and he is a great embarrassment to our country.
     
    #7 Crabtownboy, Jan 22, 2017
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    So what if he lies to us about something that is easily checked with photographs, eyewitness accounts, logic, and common sense?

    That may have been tolerated when he was running for President but now that he is President there is no excuse.

    I get the impression that Trump could drown kittens on live TV and it wouldn't bother you, so long as he made an acceptable SCOTUS nomination.

    He's dragging his feet on an executive order to defund Planned Parenthood International. George W. Bush and Reagan had both accomplished cutting off this money by their 2nd day in office. Trump will do it "if he feels like it."

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    #8 InTheLight, Jan 22, 2017
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    What's easily checkable about inau

    I keep seeing this one on social media, is it a photoshop?
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    What time of day the two pics were taken might be of interest.
     
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    According to CNN:
    The photo of Trump's inauguration was taken from television during his speech — peak time for the crowd.

    The photo of Obama's inauguration was taken by Getty and doesn't indicate the time, but Trump's should represent his largest audience.

    Found this:

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    Fake news...and you fell for it. :Roflmao
     
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    Hard to tell without seeing a larger image on a computer monitor (I'm on my phone) but it looks suspicious.

    Notice the taller brownstone building with the flag, several blocks down the left side of the image. That is the Smithsonian Castle. It abuts extremely close to the National Mall area. In fact, Jefferson Dr. has a slight curvy jog to accommodate the Castle. It's literally a street's width away from the trees lining the Mall.

    But in the photo you posted it's set back quite a distance from the Mall. Something's not right in this photo.

    Here's a screen grab I took from Google Maps street view that shows the close proximity of the Smithsonian Castle to the Mall.

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    And here is an overhead view showing the curvy jog in Jefferson Dr. and the closeness of this building to the Mall.

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    Do you have a link to the photo you posted? Maybe a higher-res version of it?




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    Yes, anything you don't agree with is Fake News. We get it.

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    #14 InTheLight, Jan 22, 2017
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    Did Trump actually lie? If he simply passed on info that was given to him - then he was not lying.
    If his aide had said "Your crowd is not as big as Obama - but tell them it is - they will believe you." Then that would be a lie.
     
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    The amount of rationalization that Christians will engage in to support Trump is astounding.

    Bush's press secretary, Ari Fleischer, tweeted that this press conference smelled like the President ordering Sean Spicer to go out there and make this statement.

    Read from bottom upwards to get sequence.

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    My quote (post 15) is neither in support or denial of Mr. Trump. I am simply pointing out that too many people misuse the term "lie" when referring to statements of others.
     
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    I watched his speech and when there was a shot of the Mall from the balcony it was obvous that the crowd petered out just beyong the Natonal Gallery of Art. Yesterday the entire Mall and side streets were packed. The crowd extended all the way to the Amercian Museum of History ... and that says nothing aobut the people on Constitution Avenue between the AMH. The ellipse was also filled with people.

    Also, in watching the parade I noticed that not all the bleechers were filled along Constitution and Pensylvania Avenue.


    Here is a photo of a small part of the busses parked at the Stadium-Armory: I took this photo from the subway car I was riding. I have never seen so many busses in one place. The old RFK stadium is in the background. At this point the subway, obviously, is above ground, high above ground. Three line use this section of the subway; the Orange Line, the Blue Line and the Silver Line.
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    A good indicator is how many Metro tickets were sold. I will post those figures in a new thread. Suffice it to say Trump will not like the figures.
     
    #18 Crabtownboy, Jan 22, 2017
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    Time lapse photography. Shows the whole thing, from people arriving to when they left.





    You can clearly see that the area in front of the Washington Monument was empty of people, which refutes that photo from Facebook.

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    Thanks for the pics, the real question is why would anyone standing blocks and blocks from the platform call it going to the inauguration? :) Why bother?
     
    #20 exscentric, Jan 22, 2017
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