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Featured Kellyanne Conway says Donald Trump’s team has ‘alternative facts.’ Which pretty much says it all.

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  1. carpro

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    Already been done many times over. I'll not bother trying to change your prejudices.

    And in the end, it just doesn't matter.
     
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    Ah, yes...the "alternative facts".

    Words of retreat. *laugh*
     
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    More or less. Because it really doesn't matter. It's not worth spending any more time on.
     
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    Yeah, who knows? I have a different take on all of this. That one picture that compared the two inaugurations is dubious because the time of the second picture is unknown. Makes no sense, it is time-stamped at 8:20 AM but the reporter (NYT) that took the picture says it was really right after 11 and that you had to adjust for the time difference - then he says his account was set to MT. Whatever, but it seems like it was taken a lot earlier in the day than the 2008 one.

    I really don't care, I think the turnout for the 2008 was much higher, it's counter-intuitive to think otherwise - I mean, a Democratic president-elect, a host city loaded with blacks, surrounded by Obama voters in all the adjacent areas - Northern Virginia, Maryland, etc., no big surprise if there were more in attendance that time. But I think Kellyanne was trolling the MSM again, the Trump WH didn't want focus on the protesters, they wanted the spotlight on Trump. She even wore a troll outfit and the MSM was punked again.
     
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    Sorry for not being there but (1) had to work and (2) just not that big of a deal. It is understandable that the first Black President would have a large turnout, that is a given. Shame that fellow's name wasn't Herman Caine.

    ;)


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    The Liberal's World: thinking that two pictures is any indication of the views of America as a whole.

    Might be a good idea to consider that Trump won without trying to appeal to homosexuals, feminists, or those who rely on government for housing, food, and cell phones.

    Liberalism is a religion and we see who it's worshipers are.


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    Trump LGBT.jpeg
     
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    I could have easily voted for Cain. From what I remember, I agreed with most of his positions. There was that bit, though, about the marital affair...
     
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    The term "alternative facts" is a legal term.

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    Note that it does not say "Trump for LGBT."

    The point remains. And that is why a bunch of sour grapes liberals are protesting. Trump ran on what is a historical stance for a presidential candidate, which means a non negotiating no nonsense position against the lunacy that has arisen in the last eight years.

    While Trump is a bit of a clown, I am quite comfortable that a return to the norm, which means not negotiating with terrorists and their sponsors, and a hard line approach to people (whether foreign or domestic) who are milking America...is quite timely.

    And one thing I hope he does is repeal Obamacare. The Government has no business funding abortion and contraception, and has no business strong-arming hard working Americans who do not look to the Government for handouts.


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    I saw the guy bust out singing a Gospel Hymn on national television, and that was enough to tell me he wasn't someone that hid his faith. With the climate of this country then (which is worse now), that was pretty much going to guarantee non-votes from liberals. Just as with Romney, one thing I liked about him was he was a business man, and we really need that. Spending is out of control and the Government seems to think the American tax-payer is their personal money tree.

    As to the marital affair, doubtful he would have repeated that mistake...in the Oval Office. lol

    Had hoped Romney would win as well. Again, a business man. I think we need to keep in mind the Presidency is a secular Office usually filled by secular men. But it is disturbing when men hold that office and do not even bother to have a fear of God.


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    Exactly. Reagan had many gay supporters as well, and thanked them and invited them to join in his causes. Will these now denounce Reagan?

    The only way I can sum up the never trump movement is narcissistic. "We don't like Trump's personality, therefore we're willing to let the world burn." Thankfully, they were an insignificant lot.
     
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    One thing I hope to happen is that Trump, like all Presidents, will grow up once the realities of his position sinks in. We may just have another Reagan if all goes well, that is my hope. But the singular issue we must, as Christians, is to remember is that this is a secular office and we should never let politics become the "big picture."

    I think among gay people there are those who would probably shame some so-called "Christians" in that in regards to common sense issues (i.e., sanctity of life, Terrorism, and even faith in God (there are gay people who believe in God)). Just because we oppose the homosexual lifestyle doesn't mean the caricature of being haters is valid, and neither is the caricature that all gays must be liberal on every issue. What we are dealing with goes far beyond the reins of men, it is Satan that stands behind the Liberal Agenda, and it is Satan that stands behind Islam. The great irony is that liberals back people like Obama and Clinton who are more dangerous to them than Christians are. Islam would put most of these people to death. Obama has made it clear he supports Muslim Terrorism.


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    Lol. Tell that to Trump and Spicer who just can't seem to help themselves.
     
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    My focus is a little different. I'm less concerned about Trump than I am the Church. From what I'm observing, it's the Church that needs to grow up and get back to its roots. Trump is likely not a believer (though it seems God is working on him), and therefore Scripture tells me not to be too concerned over him. Yet Trump has taken some very good and righteous political stands. Conversely many Church leaders are seeming to do the opposite. I can give examples, but suffice it to say, I'm much more concerned about the trends of the modern Church. We need to grow up before we can start nitpicking Trump.

    And to me, this is just as big an issue as the life issue. And Trump, again, was our only option. Opposing him was not just a matter of taste, it was dangerous, as you say. This is why I'm so concerned about the current Christian leadership in this country. Political liberalism has crept into the Church and we now have a real crisis.
     
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    Amen! I Yes, who cares how many people showed up, Mr. Trump won and Hillary is now a private citizen. I prayed hard for a Trump victory and God answered in the affirmative. My main argument to Him was that He had already chastised us with 8 years of Obama and we needed a break.
     
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    Carpro what is Gods plan? Is He a republican? Does he condone grabbing women's genitalia?


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    Wow, Trump makes a comment 15 years ago about what he could do to women who threw themselves as him, and you've all but condemned him to Hell.

    But to try to handle your question with some seriousness, would you agree King David did a lot worse than Trump? Adultery, murder—yet God still endorsed him. By your logic, God is now guilty of condoning adultery and murder.
     
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    Calminian questions were asked. Do you think God chooses our presidents? Do you think God condones evil or allows evil at times in human history?


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    Of course, but you're changing the subject. Do you think Trump has transgressed worse than King David?
     
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