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Featured Malevolence Tempered by Incompetence: Trump’s Horrifying Executive Order on Refugees and Visas

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Rolfe, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. HankD

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    It was a "what if" question.

    Here are a couple of what if's

    What if they were actually murderers under a vow of al taqiyya with counterfeit papers and they were thwarted of their murderous plans?

    What if you send some one to the store and they get hit by a drunk driver?
    Is their blood on your hands?

    HankD
     
  2. HankD

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    Indeed, This has been one of the most hateful threads I have ever seen here at the BB.

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  3. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Fact....they were already vetted with Green Cards/ they got caught up in the mess program staged by Trump & Company.

    What if you send some one to the store and they get hit by a drunk driver?
    Is their blood on your hands?

    No because I didn't force them to take the trip with police escorting them

    Sorry Hank but these are apples & orange situations. In Syria & Iraq anyway, these people are real life people running for their lives (Refugees), some are Educated professionals, people who were interpreters who fought together with our Armed Forces, some are Christians who are getting killed for their Faith.....all probably have targets on their backs. Yes they should be scrutinized & vetted ..... but they have already gone through that process, received their Green Cards, been placed in various places throughout the country with housing, jobs etc.....and so they sold everything they own, waited in Queue for years, given up their jobs & said goodby to their families. So why should they be punished by an misconceived & flawed program (that are not well thought out)?

    Maybe America has grown too comfortable & doesn't get it anymore....but I remember sitting at the kitchen table listening to the stories of now long dead relatives & friends who were refugees ....how they were chased WITH DOGS. How they were made to dig their own mass graves and dropped like rocks when shot & how about being starved to death by warring nations who thought that the best way to exterminate them was to deny them food. Hank these were white Christians being hunted, tortured & ultimately killed by other white Christians.

    Pardon me but I keep recalling Micah when I think of this whole thing.

    He has shown you, oh man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you?

    To act JUSTLY, and to love MERCY, and to walk HUMBLY with your God.
    Micah 6:8
     
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  4. HankD

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    Non Sequitur.

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    Looking forward to the day when you can have a discussion, an argument without insulting people when you're beaten.



    Sent from my Moto Droid Turbo.
     
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    Your tactics are not new.



    “Barry Goldwater’s Rise is Compared to Rise of Hitler,” announced Jet magazine on July 30, 1964. ...

    "...Like Goldwater, Richard Nixon was frequently compared to Hitler—by his Democratic rival for the presidency, George McGovern, among others. Then Ronald Reagan was Hitler for a while, and, inevitably, the funny little mustache was bestowed on President George W. Bush. His father President George Herbert Walker Bush, to judge by my perfunctory research, was seldom compared to Hitler—perhaps because he was a poor public speaker, unlike Hitler and Mussolini. Instead, during his time in office the elder Bush was smeared indirectly, by conspiracy theorists attempting to link the Bush family as a whole with the Nazi regime.

    In addition to comparing mainstream conservatives and conservative populists directly to Hitler, many progressives and libertarians smear them indirectly, by comparing their followers to Hitler’s supporters."
     
  7. Rolfe

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    Re the Godwin's Law thing. I think that Trump has a long way to go before he can legitimately be personally compared to Hitler. I do think, though, that there have been similarities between this election cycle until now and that of early-1930s Germany (discontent/division of the people, strong leader emerges, people's adoration, intolerance of dissent, etc.). The rise of Steve Bannon also reminds me a bit of the rise of Joseph Goebbels.

    My opinion only.
     
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    Ha Ha......He just did.....:Laugh
     
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    OK, Admittedly it is within the realm of possibility that a US president approaches, or desires a totalitarian venue.
    Admittedly Trump has a large ego (although maybe not as colossal as his predecessor).

    It won't happen with all of our checks and balances, separation of powers...

    This is the US with a Constitution, Bill of rights, 2nd amendment, etc, etc... This is not the Third Reich.

    HankD
     
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    Thank God there are no progressives & libertarians on this thread to smear them. :p
     
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    I will probably have to duck here, but you are of course aware the Reichstag had a constitution.....it was made inactive by the machinations of Der Fuehrer.
     
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    Come on EWF - our constitution has endured 240 years, written and ratified by several founding Fathers not some anti-Semite dictator.

    Are you feeling OK?

    HankD
     
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    I'm unaware of any dictator (anti-Semitic or otherwise) that ever crafted a constitution, but I do know plenty who have blown them out. Julius Caesar for example (don't wanna mention the the Teutonic Twit for fear of upsetting the overly sensitive's)
     
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    You should acquaint yourself with the Weimar Constitution.
     
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    The Trump presidency is America's population distribution of the political right correcting the over reach of president Obama's bent toward the left.

    It will change again, maybe 4 years maybe 8.

    We shall see.

    HankD
     
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    Yup.....maybe not a history student....funny how AH pulled that apart.
     
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    Yes we will.
     
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    And an armed citizenry.
     
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    Google "The Enabling Act of 1933".

    Basically the German Reichstag (legislature) voted to give Hitler the powers of the legislature, meaning he could decree laws without any oversight. He could even create laws that were contrary to the German constitution. Every member of one of the minority parties, the Social Democrats opposed it, to no avail. Essentially, the Reichstag voted themselves out of existence.

    Shortly after the Enabling Act was passed Hitler used his new powers and banned all political parties except the Nazi party.
     
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    Yes...don't be a dummy, be a shmarty...come and join the Nazi party - from the movie 'The Producers' ....funny flick!:)
     
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