Featured God is Good not Evil

There's one way to heaven, through Christ. Any other method is futile. We are all unrighteous, the issue is what do we do with Jesus?

1. Accept Him as our righteousness or
2. Reject Him as our righteousness

That is the issue in Romans 9:12,16

"...not by works but by him who calls...It (salvation) does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy."

If you come to God and say, "God, you give your law and I'll keep it and in return you owe me heaven", God will say "No way! Only through My Son can you come to me."

That is the condition that God, in His Sovereignty, has made. Otherwise God will say to you, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

That's the proper context of understanding Romans chapter 9

 

Jesus sue seemed to have experienced real tormant and pain, correct?

 

Yes, from the Romans, not God....

 

Think Sodom and Gommorah knew about he wrath of God first hand!

 

Why do you seek to claim the mind of God concerning how he feels about the lost?
Is henot aloed to have whtever emotions that He wants?

 

Some he chooses for His glory for salvation, others as his vessals of wrath, correct?

 

God cannot give real and total free ill, as he alone is sovereign over all!

 

In my post, which you quoted, I gave no fewer than seven Scriptures. I note that you have addressed none of them, but brought up one of your own. But never mind.

Your interpretation of Romans 9 is a non sequitur. If God says, "Only through My Son can you come to Me," then on all others God does not have compassion.. The fact is that 'Salvation belongs to our God' (Revelation 7:10), then it is entirely within His gift, and 'Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens' (Romans 9:18). I understand that You and Utilyan do not like this, but Paul answers you both in Romans 9:19-26.

 

We are subject to God, not Him to us!

 

Humans naturally run from God. If God does not do the work of reconciliation then no human would ever know the love of God.

You flatter yourself in imagining that you willfully chose God. You didn't. You had to be drawn, kicking and screaming at the horror of standing before a holy God as a disgustingly vile human wretch. (Read the first stanza of Amazing Grace sometime. Newton was a Calvinist.)

No, God is never evil when he grabs you and drags you into his presence. The fact that you think that is appalling and points toward you misunderstanding grace.

 

LOL, this is a funny twist whereby you state that believing God sovereignly chooses his children is therefore equal to universalism. Clearly you are ignorant regarding universalism.

Question: Does the passage you quote say that God will redeem all people and reconcile all people?

 

It is amazing how human pride affects how we view the salvation process!

 

Where do you find this term "accept Christ?" I have been waiting for a bible passage from you.

In our unrighteousness we flee God's presence. Everytime, given our own will, we will flee from the presence of God.

 

God has given us the freedom to pick what clothes to wear and what we wish to eat, etc.

God must do the work of reconciliation because we are...rebels and in constant rebellion to God. We will always flee from the holiness of God. God must choose to redeem us. We cannot redeem ourselves.

I have provided passage after passage and you reject God's word.

 

LOL, your God is so weak that He cannot stop puny humans from their actions. In your world the Roman army was more powerful than the creator of the universe.

Shake my head, how can you worship such a weak god?

 

Very well stated.

 

Probable same passage tha supports accepting Jesus into your heart!

 

I've already explained...You aren't interested because it doesn't fit in with your theology....We are just going in circles.

 

What did Jesus say to Pilate? "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above."

In other words God did not intervene.

The cross exposed Satan's hatred for God.