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Featured Christ Died on what day?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Feb 7, 2013.

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Christ died on

Poll closed Mar 24, 2013.

  1. Wed

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  2. Thur

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  3. Fri

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  4. Not sure

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  1. rlvaughn

    rlvaughn Well-Known Member
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    rstrats, I used some accommodation in our term Wednesday. I think the Jews were counting evening and morning as a day. If so, if Jesus died in the afternoon/evening of what we consider Wednesday, his resurrection occurred at a point on the afternoon/evening of the following Saturday, as it began to be the first day of the week.
     
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    Exactly. His body was placed in the tomb on Wednesday, as the sabbabath was approaching (twilight,) He rose 24 hours later. The women went to the tomb as soon as it dark, towards the end of the sabbath, "While it was yet dark." 3 days aND 3 nights.
     
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    I believe He was crucified on Wednesday, the preparation day for the Passover. He was taken down because the Sabbath day was approaching. Not the regular weekly Sabbath but the High Holy Day of a special Sabbath, the first day of Passover. They ladies stayed home and celebrated the Passover meal.

    On Thursday the ladies went shopping for the materials to "embalm" His body. When they were finished it was too late to go to the tomb.

    They stayed home on Saturday because it was the regular weekly Sabbath.

    On Sunday morning, before sunup, "as it began to down toward the first day of the week" they arrived at the tomb (in this case the word "day" means the daylight portion of the day, just as we see in Genesis 1:5), but he was already gone. The weekly Sabbath had ended at sundown the day before and He arose on the first day of the week, which was from sundown on what we call Saturday to sundown on what we call Sunday.

    72 hours. Three days and three nights in the tomb.

    This is actually fairly simple to understand once we lay aside the old Catholic myths and traditions and just read the bible with understanding. :)
     
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  4. Salty

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    A former pastor at Twin City Baptist, Winston-Salem, NC said - we should not be dogmatic about Christ dying on Wed; we should be BULLdogmatic about it!


    TCassidy - He was very serious about that!
     
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  5. rstrats

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    David Kent,
    re: " His body was placed in the tomb on Wednesday, as the sabbabath was approaching (twilight,) He rose 24 hours later."

    That's a scenario I haven't heard before - 2 daytimes and 1 night time.
     
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    TCassidy,
    re: "I believe He was crucified on Wednesday...and He arose on the first day of the week..."



    If by Wednesday, you mean the 4th calendar day of the week, then 5 calendar days would have been involved along with at least 4 daytimes and at least 4 night times. Somehow that doesn't seem right.
     
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    Sundown Wednesday to Sundown Thursday. 1 day.
    Sundown Thursday to Sundown Friday. 2 days.
    Sundown Friday to Sundown Saturday. 3 days.

    He arose at sundown Saturday, which to a Jew was the beginning of Sunday. 3 days and 3 nights.
     
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    I developed a timeline of the crucifixion and resurrection events in my studies about 30 years ago. I might go back over it with a fine-toothed comb and change some things, but it still represents pretty much what I think about it. Didn't know how to put it here, but can be viewed HERE.
     
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    TCassidy,

    re: "Sundown Wednesday to Sundown Thursday. 1 day.

    Sundown Thursday to Sundown Friday. 2 days.

    Sundown Friday to Sundown Saturday. 3 days."



    If the Messiah was placed in the tomb on Wednesday, that would mean 1 calendar day and one daytime would be involved.

    Thursday would account for the 2nd calendar day and the 1st night time and the 2nd daytime.

    Friday would account for the 3rd calendar day and the 2nd night time and the 3rd daytime.

    Saturday would account for 4th calendar day and the 3rd night time and the 4th daytime.

    And Sunday would account for the 5th calendar day and the 4th night time. That of course is predicated on the resurrection taking place before Sunday daytime.
     
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    He was placed in the tomb at sundown, on what we call Wednesday but on what the Jews would call the beginning of Thursday. 1 day.

    First day. Sundown to sundown.

    2nd day. Sundow to sundown.

    3rd day. Sundown to sundown.

    Nope. Arose at sundown, and was gone while it was still dark, before sunup, on Sunday.
     
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    TCassidy,

    re: "He was placed in the tomb at sundown...on what the Jews would call the beginning of Thursday. 1 day."


    So you're saying that the Messiah died on the 4th day of the week, but wasn't placed in the tomb until the 5th day of the week? If so, what scripture do you have for that?





    re: "Nope. Arose at sundown, and was gone while it was still dark, before sunup, on Sunday."


    So what are you saying? - That the resurrection took place on the seventh day of the week or on the first day of the week?
     
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  12. TCassidy

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    No, I'm not. I am saying exactly what I said.

    I am saying exactly what I said.

    I get the impression you may be trolling. If so, please stop. What I said was easily understood.
     
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    TCassidy,
    re: "I get the impression you may be trolling."

    Your impression is incorrect.



    re: "What I said was easily understood."

    Apparently not by me or I wouldn't be asking the questions.
     
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    Tom, your thoughts concerning a couple of phrases.

    the lowest parts of the earth
    the heart of the earth

    Are they concepts of death or burial?

    To ask differently; was the son of the man, in, the heart of the earth at death or when they entombed him?
    Did the Christ, descend to the lowest parts of the earth, at death or at entombment?

    I believe they refer to death rather than entombment.

    The Son of the man, shall be in.
    Christ, rose again the third day .
     
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    Matt22:37-39: Very clearly presented. I have never heard this compelling research before.The standard explanation of Friday-Sunday always sounded weak to me, so I always tended brush by it whenever asked. This makes so much more sense, and if it's scripturally defensible. Thank you!
     
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  16. TCassidy

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    If you are referring to Psalm 139:15, which is the only place in the KJV the phrase is used, it is a metaphor for a dark, obscure place. In this case his mother's womb.

    The Jews used the word “heart” to denote the “interior” of a thing, or to speak of being in a thing. It means, here, to be in the grave or sepulchre. In the tomb.


    Neither. They are, as with all such phrases, context driven. Psalm 139:15 refers to the womb. Matthew 12:40 refers to the garden tomb.

    Entombed.

    When He entered the tomb.

    You are certainly entitled to your belief, but I disagree.
     
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    Thanks, I was really thinking of Eph 4:9 And I was comparing Eph 4:7-10 with Acts 2:22-36 where Jesus of Nazareth was crucified and slain raised from the dead ascended to the right hand of God, received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit and by that Spirit shed upon men to be the same as the descending and ascending and giving gifts to men of Eph 4:7-10 That same Jesus of Nazareth V36 being both Lord and Christ, the Christ of E 4:7 -10

    Again, Thanks .
     
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  18. Josh the Baptist

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    I agree with Zaac.
     
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    Wednesday
     
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    I think you might be confusing some when you say Wednesday, which would have been by Jewish reckoning Thursday. You might re-post how Northern Jews reckoned the beginning of the Day differently from southern Jews.


    God bless.
     
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