He did not take on the seed.of Adam....but rather the seed of Abraham Heb 2:16...
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No limited-atonement here:
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I didn't mention anything about "the seed" of anyone, but since you brought this up let me ask you question?
From where did Abraham come?
Wasn't it Adam? And what about David? Again, Adam!
Acts 17:26 "He (God) has made from one [Adam] every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth"
All of us, David, Abraham, etc...share one life - the fallen life of Adam.
Christ, as "the last Adam", united Himself to our shared life via the incarnation and by His birth, life, death and resurrection" He legally justified "all men" from "the curse of the law" to "justification of life". That work is a finished work.
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Definite Atonement? You mean "limited atonement"?
BTW, I didn't call you a heretic. I called Calvinism heretical.
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Right...that's limited atonement. [Attack edited] John states that "God is love" and Paul tells us that "love is not self-seeking". Therefore God is not self-seeking. There is no favoritism is God's kingdom. Favoritism & partiality belongs to Satan's kingdom, not God's. [Attack edited]
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You are entitled to your opinion, everyone has one.
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How can anyone who likes Earth, Wind and Fire be a heretic. It just can't happen. [emoji41]
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James 2:8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. 9 But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.
Jesus said, "I have kept my Father’s commandments" John 15:10 He said, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." Matt 5:17,18
Jesus is God. He is our Savior. He kept his father's law. Jesus did not commit favoritism. [Attack edited]
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The truth of the first Adam, Last Adam is wonderful.
However you are attempting to evade the clear teaching in Hebrews 2. Do not run from the truth or you will never find it.
Perhaps you should answer the question. If you can.
AndThisGospel
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I do not believe in universalism. IT would be very nice if everyone received Christ, but the Bible clearly states that some will not.
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What is the clear teaching of Hebrews chapter 2?
The Lord Jesus becomes incarnate because the Covenant Children He came to redeem (seed of Abraham),the sanctified, brethren,assembly,the Children given to Him by the Father...we're also flesh and blood.
The distinction made is He comes for the Covenant seed....others are passed by.
So, you limit the atonement only to those who believe?
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Rom 5:6 For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
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There is only one way to heaven and that is through the new or everlasting covenant. That, after all, is Paul's point in Romans 9:7-11
For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.”8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. 9 For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.” 10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls)
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Rom 4:1 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh?2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.
The only way to heaven is through the New Covenant. By the works of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight. That's the Old Covenant. Those who insist on heaven by works are under the Old Covenant.
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AndThisGospel
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That's untrue...that's a lie.
ALL are separated from God when born, none right with God, and ONLY those whom God saves are now rightt with Him again!
So, was that a "yes" or a "no?"
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