Featured Gluttony

Wow, didn't know that. Thanks for the information.

 

Look again. My post was not advocating teetotalism, it was opposing equating gluttony with drunkenness.

And it's none of your business anyway if I choose to stand for teetotalism. I am obeying my father. My paternal grandfather was a drunkard who would come home drunk and beat my father, then died when my father was just a boy. After that his two older brothers would get drunk and beat him. It's a miracle he got saved out of that abuse and became a preacher of the Gospel for 60 years.

One day when I was a boy, my Dad took me down to the Pacific Garden Mission in Chicago where he was to preach. As we came to a drunk lying in the gutter in his own vomit, Dad said to me, "Son, that's what alcohol does." So if I choose to oppose all alcohol, I'm obeying my father. And that's none of your business. And for the record, I have never "tried to force" my POV on others, and rarely even have posted on the alcohol threads here for a long time. So drink all the booze you want, but kindly stay out of my life.

 

No, actually I think I'll put you on ignore, instead, until you grow up and act maturely.

 

Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

It's all about control.

Why, why does anyone want to be controlled by lust for anything (food, drink, money, etc...) when we have the Holy Spirit 24/7?

The Holy Spirit costs nothing of our money, can only do us good, never bad.

And He loves you.

Why grieve Him?

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

1 Thessalonians 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.

HankD

 

Or anything. But it's not chiseled in stone.

Under the law: Will you obey me?
Under grace: Do you love me?

HankD

 

If one loves the LORD that is his/her motivation for not being enslaved to sin ("for sin is the transgression of the law") not the fear of the thunder and lightening from Mt Horeb (Deuteronomy 18:16).

HankD

 

The motivation to abstain from alcohol is love. Love of God or love of one's neighbor or brother

HankD.

 

Have you ever considered your constant need to justify your alcohol use means you are convicted about it?

 

evan. You are preaching to the choir, I am not a teetotaler except temporarily (if that is proper phraseology) where it was required of me or when I knew in certain long term situations it would make the brethren stumble ("to stumble" is not the same as "to fall") and hinder the image of Christ coming forth in their life.

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed (Grk. metamorphoo) into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Romans 14:21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak.

At best abstain or at very least keep it to your self at home.

HankD