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Congress Warns Donald Trump: Stop Deleting Your Tweets

Crabtownboy

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This administration is going to have more ethics problems than Carter has liver pills.
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When President Donald Trump or a member of his staff deletes a tweet, they may be violating federal law, two top congressmen warned the White House this week.

Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) and Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), chairman and ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, sent a letter to White House counsel Don McGahn on Wednesday expressing concerns about the Trump administration’s record keeping habits and its nontransparent use of social media and other forms of electronic communication.

One example the lawmakers cited is Trump’s habit of misspelling and then deleting tweets, which they warned “could pose a violation to the Presidential Records Act” if the deleted tweets are not archived.

“Many of the messages sent from these accounts are likely to be presidential records and therefore must be preserved,” they wrote, referring to both Trump’s personal @realDonaldTrump account and his official @POTUS account. “It has been reported, however, that President Trump has deleted tweets, and if those tweets were not archived, it could pose a violation of the Presidential Records Act,” Chaffetz and Cummings wrote in the letter.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s_58c1a8d3e4b0d1078ca51126?h0w0l0zoxvfna5rk9&
 

Yeshua1

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This administration is going to have more ethics problems than Carter has liver pills.
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When President Donald Trump or a member of his staff deletes a tweet, they may be violating federal law, two top congressmen warned the White House this week.

Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) and Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), chairman and ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, sent a letter to White House counsel Don McGahn on Wednesday expressing concerns about the Trump administration’s record keeping habits and its nontransparent use of social media and other forms of electronic communication.

One example the lawmakers cited is Trump’s habit of misspelling and then deleting tweets, which they warned “could pose a violation to the Presidential Records Act” if the deleted tweets are not archived.

“Many of the messages sent from these accounts are likely to be presidential records and therefore must be preserved,” they wrote, referring to both Trump’s personal @realDonaldTrump account and his official @POTUS account. “It has been reported, however, that President Trump has deleted tweets, and if those tweets were not archived, it could pose a violation of the Presidential Records Act,” Chaffetz and Cummings wrote in the letter.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s_58c1a8d3e4b0d1078ca51126?h0w0l0zoxvfna5rk9&
Where were they when Hilliary was doing her email thing though?
 

Happy

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This administration is going to have more ethics problems than Carter has liver pills.
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When President Donald Trump or a member of his staff deletes a tweet, they may be violating federal law, two top congressmen warned the White House this week.

Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) and Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), chairman and ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, sent a letter to White House counsel Don McGahn on Wednesday expressing concerns about the Trump administration’s record keeping habits and its nontransparent use of social media and other forms of electronic communication.

One example the lawmakers cited is Trump’s habit of misspelling and then deleting tweets, which they warned “could pose a violation to the Presidential Records Act” if the deleted tweets are not archived.

“Many of the messages sent from these accounts are likely to be presidential records and therefore must be preserved,” they wrote, referring to both Trump’s personal @realDonaldTrump account and his official @POTUS account. “It has been reported, however, that President Trump has deleted tweets, and if those tweets were not archived, it could pose a violation of the Presidential Records Act,” Chaffetz and Cummings wrote in the letter.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s_58c1a8d3e4b0d1078ca51126?h0w0l0zoxvfna5rk9&

One example the lawmakers cited is Trump’s habit of misspelling and then deleting tweets, which they warned “could pose a violation to the Presidential Records Act” if the deleted tweets are not archived.

LOL ~ by LAW da perz msut spel crorcetly ~ funny!

And the President must have ALL of his communications archived?

"Hey Bud, I think I can use a nine iron on this one".
"Man my wife sure make a delicious supper last night".
"Excuse me, I need to go to the men's room".
"Oh don't mind that little microphone dear, How's your bath water"?

LOL

Good grief, if they want a copy of his "tweets", join his "following"!
 

Crabtownboy

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One example the lawmakers cited is Trump’s habit of misspelling and then deleting tweets, which they warned “could pose a violation to the Presidential Records Act” if the deleted tweets are not archived.

LOL ~ by LAW da perz msut spel crorcetly ~ funny!

And the President must have ALL of his communications archived?

"Hey Bud, I think I can use a nine iron on this one".
"Man my wife sure make a delicious supper last night".
"Excuse me, I need to go to the men's room".
"Oh don't mind that little microphone dear, How's your bath water"?

LOL

Good grief, if they want a copy of his "tweets", join his "following"!

I thought you were a law and order fellow.

By the way, historians and history lover would love antidotes of the type you posted. They give insights into the people posting them.

And, it is the law and Trump should be made to obey the law.
 

Happy

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I thought you were a law and order fellow.

By the way, historians and history lover would love antidotes of the type you posted. They give insights into the people posting them.

And, it is the law and Trump should be made to obey the law.

I said nothing whatsoever about NOT being for law and order. And I will clarify; I am FOR Laws that are bound WITHIN the US Constitution, and NOT for LAWS enacted OUTSIDE of the boundary of the US Constitution. (speaking obviously of Federal Statutes).

Do tell ~ Which archive heading should one request to review Bill Clinton's communication with his string of mistresses?

And how about all of Obama's blackberry communications? Are they archived?

What Law are you claiming Trump violated?
 

Crabtownboy

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I said nothing whatsoever about NOT being for law and order. And I will clarify; I am FOR Laws that are bound WITHIN the US Constitution, and NOT for LAWS enacted OUTSIDE of the boundary of the US Constitution. (speaking obviously of Federal Statutes).

Do tell ~ Which archive heading should one request to review Bill Clinton's communication with his string of mistresses?

And how about all of Obama's blackberry communications? Are they archived?

What Law are you claiming Trump violated?

Silly argument. Where does the Constitution say it is legal to have speed limits or a whole host of other laws we have that could not be conceived of in colonial days as they had no technology to present these potential problems.

Trump is violating the Presidential Records Act.

From: https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents created or received after January 20, 1981. The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents must manage their records.

Specifically, the Presidential Records Act:

  • Defines and states public ownership of the records.
  • Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.
  • Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once he has obtained the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal.
  • Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.
  • Establishes a process for restriction and public access to these records. Specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years. The PRA also establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain special access to records that remain closed to the public, following a thirty-day notice period to the former and current Presidents..
  • Requires that Vice-Presidential records are to be treated in the same way as Presidential records.

Concerning Bill Clinton .. he was not stupid enough to keep a list or to email a list to others. If he had he would have to leave them in the public record. [How about asking intelligent questions. Thanks in advance.]
 

Happy

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Silly argument. Where does the Constitution say it is legal to have speed limits or a whole host of other laws we have that could not be conceived of in colonial days as they had no technology to present these potential problems.

Trump is violating the Presidential Records Act.

Concerning Bill Clinton .. he was not stupid enough to keep a list or to email a list to others. If he had he would have to leave them in the public record. [How about asking intelligent questions. Thanks in advance.]

I did not present an argument. I asked you questions. IFY, there are no stupid questions, but that does not rule out, stupid answers.

And IFY, the US Constitution gives authority for the Federal Government to dictate the rule making authority over roads that go from one sovereign state to another sovereign state. Speed "limits" <---> some are suggestions and ALL have exceptions.

It is laughable, that two members of the House are wondering IF Trumps tweets are legally required to be archived, and YOU have decided they are!

For someone who claims they require only intelligent questions; it is amusing you are unaware that what a Rep wonders is not the legal measure for determining violation of a law!

Thanks for sharing your know the extent of Bill Clinton's stupidity. But that was not the question.
 

HankD

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This administration is going to have more ethics problems than Carter has liver pills.
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When President Donald Trump or a member of his staff deletes a tweet, they may be violating federal law, two top congressmen warned the White House this week.

Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) and Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), chairman and ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, sent a letter to White House counsel Don McGahn on Wednesday expressing concerns about the Trump administration’s record keeping habits and its nontransparent use of social media and other forms of electronic communication.

One example the lawmakers cited is Trump’s habit of misspelling and then deleting tweets, which they warned “could pose a violation to the Presidential Records Act” if the deleted tweets are not archived.

“Many of the messages sent from these accounts are likely to be presidential records and therefore must be preserved,” they wrote, referring to both Trump’s personal @realDonaldTrump account and his official @POTUS account. “It has been reported, however, that President Trump has deleted tweets, and if those tweets were not archived, it could pose a violation of the Presidential Records Act,” Chaffetz and Cummings wrote in the letter.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s_58c1a8d3e4b0d1078ca51126?h0w0l0zoxvfna5rk9&
OH Really!

Maybe "LOCK HER UP" needs to be revived or perhaps our nations 40,000 American secrets don't have the security weight of tweets.

Ridiculous.

He WILL NOT be manipulated.


HankD
 

Yeshua1

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Silly argument. Where does the Constitution say it is legal to have speed limits or a whole host of other laws we have that could not be conceived of in colonial days as they had no technology to present these potential problems.

Trump is violating the Presidential Records Act.

From: https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents created or received after January 20, 1981. The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents must manage their records.

Specifically, the Presidential Records Act:

  • Defines and states public ownership of the records.
  • Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.
  • Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once he has obtained the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal.
  • Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.
  • Establishes a process for restriction and public access to these records. Specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years. The PRA also establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain special access to records that remain closed to the public, following a thirty-day notice period to the former and current Presidents..
  • Requires that Vice-Presidential records are to be treated in the same way as Presidential records.

Concerning Bill Clinton .. he was not stupid enough to keep a list or to email a list to others. If he had he would have to leave them in the public record. [How about asking intelligent questions. Thanks in advance.]
How about Mrs Clinton?
 

Yeshua1

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I did not present an argument. I asked you questions. IFY, there are no stupid questions, but that does not rule out, stupid answers.

And IFY, the US Constitution gives authority for the Federal Government to dictate the rule making authority over roads that go from one sovereign state to another sovereign state. Speed "limits" <---> some are suggestions and ALL have exceptions.

It is laughable, that two members of the House are wondering IF Trumps tweets are legally required to be archived, and YOU have decided they are!

For someone who claims they require only intelligent questions; it is amusing you are unaware that what a Rep wonders is not the legal measure for determining violation of a law!

Thanks for sharing your know the extent of Bill Clinton's stupidity. But that was not the question.
Is the main problem with trump, or with rogue intelligence groups trying to undermine him? Maybe even having presient Obama helping them out to do that?
 

Crabtownboy

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OH Really!

Maybe "LOCK HER UP" needs to be revived or perhaps our nations 40,000 American secrets don't have the security weight of tweets.

Ridiculous.

He WILL NOT be manipulated.


HankD

It is not a matter of being manipulated. It is a matter of obeying the law.
 

Happy

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Was Hillary ever president? NO! So the Presidential Records Act has nothing to do with her.

Please try to ask an intelligent question.

Well was she or is she a liar?

“I’m not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the President.”
Hillary Clinton quoted in Blood Sport: The President and His Adversaries (p. 368), James B. Stewart, December 1993
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I did not present an argument. I asked you questions. IFY, there are no stupid questions, but that does not rule out, stupid answers.

And IFY, the US Constitution gives authority for the Federal Government to dictate the rule making authority over roads that go from one sovereign state to another sovereign state. Speed "limits" <---> some are suggestions and ALL have exceptions.

It is laughable, that two members of the House are wondering IF Trumps tweets are legally required to be archived, and YOU have decided they are!

For someone who claims they require only intelligent questions; it is amusing you are unaware that what a Rep wonders is not the legal measure for determining violation of a law!

Thanks for sharing your know the extent of Bill Clinton's stupidity. But that was not the question.

DO YOUR JOB, DO YOUR JOB! The People have spoken.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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This administration is going to have more ethics problems than Carter has liver pills.
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When President Donald Trump or a member of his staff deletes a tweet, they may be violating federal law, two top congressmen warned the White House this week.

Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) and Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), chairman and ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, sent a letter to White House counsel Don McGahn on Wednesday expressing concerns about the Trump administration’s record keeping habits and its nontransparent use of social media and other forms of electronic communication.

One example the lawmakers cited is Trump’s habit of misspelling and then deleting tweets, which they warned “could pose a violation to the Presidential Records Act” if the deleted tweets are not archived.

“Many of the messages sent from these accounts are likely to be presidential records and therefore must be preserved,” they wrote, referring to both Trump’s personal @realDonaldTrump account and his official @POTUS account. “It has been reported, however, that President Trump has deleted tweets, and if those tweets were not archived, it could pose a violation of the Presidential Records Act,” Chaffetz and Cummings wrote in the letter.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s_58c1a8d3e4b0d1078ca51126?h0w0l0zoxvfna5rk9&
Give it a rest Crabby.....this is trivial. Nobody cares.
 

Happy

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You must care. You replied.

The public not caring is how autocrats become dictators.

“The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.”
Hannah Arendt, The Life of the Mind

An autocrat IS a dictator. And you think people should be concerned about Trump being a dictator?

Why? Is promoting one taking care of themselves so far removed from your lifestyle?
 
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