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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by blessedwife318, Mar 6, 2017.

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What are your thoughts on the GOP's replacement of Obamacare

  1. It's what I wanted from the GOP

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  2. It's a start but still needs work

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  3. It needs a lot of work

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  4. They need to just repeal Obamacare and not replace it at all

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  5. Government just needs to get out of healthcare altogether and let the free market works

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  6. Obamacare is fine the GOP needs to leave it alone

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  7. We should go to Single Payer

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  8. Other

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  1. Happy

    Happy Well-Known Member
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    I don't keep tabs on P. Ryan or know what your reference pertains to.
     
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    Yea well I will admit that BO is a liar but to say the program is bankrupt?!?

    Wouldn't you agree that the Republicans should have been proactive in anticipation of the collapse, had a formative & affordable program waiting in the wings in retaliation?
     
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    He was a government handout retriever for years as was his family. And most of his college edu was paid for via entitlements.
     
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    There is documentation of intent of the US Constitution. Servants were never given carte blanc to willy nilly do what they feel like. Providing for compensation for the "servants", administrative or military was not an "exception", it was the intent. Providing for the public at large was intended to be provisions that affected ALL, not "particulars" or "special" or "few" or "many" and "law makers" jump outside of the boundaries and "pretend" they have been given the authority to make laws based on "their" ideas and feelings.
     
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    See Rob, stuff like this bothers me though.....especially a wife who is going through cancer treatments & has blood clot problems.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbo-report-says-14-million-more-would-be-uninsured-by-2018/
     
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    Hospitals can't turn away the sick.
    Truth is... the health care plan covers the hospitals - not the patients.

    The best medicine isn't insurance but education.

    Rob
     
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    You don't address the issue. I receive compensation from the US government every month.

    You say that which I receive "the government had to first TAKE, BRIBE, STEAL from an other who EARNED it."

    And by taking that compensation I "deprive a man of; his own wealth, he earned."

    So, either some such compensation is just, or you just accused me of stealing what another person has earned."

    So, if you don't think I am a thief to accept my disability compensation, which you say you don't, then the question remains unanswered, "if there is one exception, are there other exceptions where it is both moral and ethical to accept compensation paid, in some small way, by those who earned it?

    If so, then let's look at other exceptions and discuss how to best take care of those in need without bankrupting those who earned it.
     
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    I didn't say you said it. I asked you a question. You said
    when I said it was the truth.

    So, the question remains, what do you propose that is better for everyone than just telling the truth?
     
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    Education...what do you mean? Perhaps you mean preventative medication....but I'm not sure....could you please advise?
     
    #149 Earth Wind and Fire, Mar 14, 2017
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    Innocent until proven guilty.

    HankD
     
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    You say that which I receive "the government had to first TAKE, BRIBE, STEAL from an other who EARNED it."

    That is the case in numerous situations.
    I already pointed out Constitutional provisions that apply to the military.
    You claim the military provision applies to you.
    And? So why are you pressing a moot point?

    What do you mean "take care".... of "those" in "need"?

    Who should do the "taking care"?
    Who are those "in need"?
    And why are those "whoever they are", in need?
     
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    LOL ~ so do people hide things, when they are not crooks.
     
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    Romney, Hilly & Barry were all in a race of sorts. A hope for a star on their forehead. Romney actually put together and put into effect a state health care bill. The politicos spy on each other for ideas. Even the queen of misspeak tried to soften her home media debacle by deflecting to Powell's home server.
     
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    I didn't say that. You did.

    There are no "Constitutional provisions" that even require a standing (and thus paid) army.

    There is no "military provision." What ARTICLE I, SECTION 8, CLAUSE 12 actually says is "The Congress shall have Power To ...raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years...." I served over 50 years ago. I think my appropriation ran out a long, long time ago.

    I am trying to get you to see that the point is not moot, nor is all such support unethical or immoral.

    I mean to "take care of those in need."

    Whoever can.

    Those with a need.

    For whatever reason.
     
    #154 TCassidy, Mar 15, 2017
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    This thread is closed.
     
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