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SMH

 

The abuse of scripture being perpetuated by Zenas reminds me of the meme posted by another person in the Calvin/Arminian forum...

 

Ezekiel 4 speaks for itself. The eastern gate is the birth canal. This was recognized by Jerome, Ambrose and Augustine. It has been recognized in both the eastern church and the western church ever since these men wrote their commentaries. Based on your posts, I know you have read a lot and may have seminary training. However, if you have never heard Ezekiel 4 interpreted this way, you ought to do a little reading outside the reservation. Then at least you could make intelligent comments rather than reply with cartoon characters.

 

LOL, the Eastern gate of the temple equals the birth canal. Does that mean that Mary was facing toward Persia when she gave birth to Jesus?

It's clear that Jerome, Ambrose and Augustine were utterly wrong in their allegory regarding Mary. They got some other things right in the Bible, but this one is just laughably wrong.

 

Bible is not found in the bible. You have no canon of scripture, too bad, so sad, bye bye.

 

LOL

 

You say 'abuse', I say 'interpreting the Word of God aright'. Who is to judge between us as to whose interpretation is correct? If only we had a teaching authority to do that.... Oh, wait

 

Says someone who reads:

24You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

And mentally figures...... Duurrrr..... that must mean Man is justified by faith alone and not by works.

 

Matt, I read "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus" by Nabeel Qureshi. He shared how, as a Muslim, he was trained to take a verse from the Bible and use it as a proof text that the Bible prophesied of about Muhammad coming as the last and final prophet. The context of the verses had nothing to do with Muhammad, but because he had a pretext in his mind, he claimed the verse anyway. THAT is exactly what our Roman church friends are doing with the verses they use to claim Mary's perpetual virginity. It's what cults do to twist the Bible. It's what Satan did when he quoted the Bible. Why would those who claim to be Christians do the same thing and abuse God's word to suit their own agenda?

The context of scripture trumps the traditions created by the flawed leaders in Vatican City. If you want to follow them blindly and not question their interpretations then you are no different than a cult member or a member of a radical Muslim sect who blindly straps on his bomb and tells himself that Allah is pleased.

 

Nice use of verse out of context. It seems to be a Roman church trend. No wonder the pope and the imams are holding hands...

 

Proof-texting is what evangelicals do too. You might claim to be interpreting in context but how does that explain the multiplicity of interpretations, often mutually-contradictory, that exist amongst evangelicals.

And your comparison to suicide bombers is very poor taste, particularly in the light of this week's events in Manchester.

 

Never.

 

Have you never heard of the doctrine of kenosis? Again, this is pretty basic stuff.

 

So - what - He appeared simultaneously in every location in the world for 33 years?

 

Everyone is vulnerable to proof texting, but Protestants admire the Berean for challenging Paul when he made claims. The debates happen because people want to rightly divide the word of God. Thus we call on people to keep their arguments in context of the entire passage. You should be very aware that the original manuscripts don't have chapters or verse numbers. They are free flowing documents and they have a context. Use context so you don't end up in a place the author (God) never intended.