Why do Arminians have such a small view of God?

Oh, please. The "trick" is a teaching step to emphasize the importance of spelling. It's the same as using the correct version of its or it's; or the proper placement of a comma. Poor usage causes confusion; and there's enough of that already with people emphasizing and trying to place themselves and others in theological camps.

If you want to turn it into an ad hominem or re-direct, feel feel.

 

I typically don't get into these discussions, and am already regretting having done so this time. They all-too-often devolve into "you're not reformed so you're not truly saved" or "you're calvinist, so you must think God has already saved everyone He's gonna save."

 

This particular Arminian has a rather large view of God...

 

I have been here well over a decade. I could count on one hand the number of people who claimed, "...God has purposely placed His will in subordination under man's will." The only thing "castrated" here is an understanding, whether by intention or ignorance, of the historic Arminian position on the will of man in regards to his salvation.

 

Really? Then where is your reply? Watch, guaranteed instead of answering he'll try to devolve it into a debate unrelated to the post, they have NOTHING, no Arminian can win a biblical debate against me, period, NNE.

 

What a way to argue! Of course they don't SAY IT, but it's the result if you think of their position.

 

I agree with you, serious over a decade debating, hearing the same things, I ask myself "What are you doing", I agree, it gets tiring and often devolves. Going to try to discipline myself and stay off the boards! Thanks

 

I serve a Huge God. You have to look at why God created man. He did not need nor did he want another class of puppets. He wanted a spirit being who had the ability to freely choose to live Him or freely choose to reject Him.

 

That is kind of like boiling Calvinism down so far that one says, God told Adam not to eat of the tree and then God made him eat of the tree.

 

I cannot claim to know your intent, but posting this poem in this manner appears to me to be a statement that an Amrinians theology is basically unbelief.

 

We have a much broader view of God than Calvinists. We know that God loves us and has allowed us free will. We know that God loves his creation and did not make humans as puppets on a string. We know that God, like any good father, allows us to make choices, even bad choices and that we can learn from those choices. We know that God is not the creator of evil that Calvinists believe in as they believe God foreordained all things, even the evil we see i n the world. The God Calvinist create is a small, mean spirited god. Calvinists say they believe in God's sovereignty, but they don't. They believe in God's pulling strings making his puppets dance his dance and having no life of their own.

Why do Calvinist's make God so small?

 

One who posts accusations should not be surprised at counter-accusations.

 

Isaiah 43:7
Rev 4:11
God gets no glory from a puppet on a string.

 

Chapter and verse please? We'll all wait for it.

This is the danger folks, those of you watching, see how he just makes a random statement that HE THINKS is how God operates, but has no scriptural support. The reason I asked for chapter and verse is that he cannot produce it, so he hopes reason will win the day, it will not, God's word does.

In John 6 Jesus answers this question, first He says man is Unable to come to Him, then He gives the only way man can come to Him, that is "IF the Father DRAWS him", then He says "ALL that the Father draw WILL COME", then finishes by saying "All that THE FATHER HAS GIVEN ME I WILL IN NO WISE CAST OUT", TULIP in on chapter and verse. Obviously there are thousands of such examples, but John 6 is a Canyon no Arminian has, or can jump over, climb under, it's clarity, it's context in answering why some believed and some didn't is without dispute.

Now this fellow clearly has no notion of Reformed theology. "Class of Puppets" huh? If you act in such a way so that a woman falls in love with you, is she a puppet? According to you she is, but this is not what scripture teaches, nor does Reformed Theology, "I have DRAWN YOU with Loving kindness", we are all made for God, just as water is to thirst, food is to hunger, so God is to man's happiness, no one can resist Him for He is life, and when He "Takes out our heart of stone and HE puts in a heart of flesh", our desires change to love Him and hate evil, that a Christian would use words like "Puppet" suggests strongly that they have never known the Lord, I have the Spirit of Christ, so my heart DESIRES THE THINGS OF HIM, to not know this is to not be Regenerated. I feel much pity for such a class of men, men who know not the Lord, no know what a Joy it is to be near Him, and do His will, not out of our strength but by His Spirit.

I'm so glad that God is the one who opens hearts, hardens them, opens mouths, closes them, there is not one part of reality that extends beyond his Sovereignty. If man had free will as this unlearned fellow suggests, then he must never pray for anyone, for what would you pray? That God violate mans free will and draw him to the Lord? Can't have that, no mighty man has to be in control, their tiny god in Heaven, begging for them all to come, crying every day "But you are dying tomorrow, I love you infinitely, GEE I HOPE YOU USE YOUR FREE WILL AND REPENT, FOR IF YOU DON'T I'LL HAVE TO HATE YOU FOREVER AND TORMENT YOU FOREVER, EVEN THOUGH I LOVE YOU, FOR YOUR FREE WILL IS MORE IMPORTANT AND POWERFUL THAN MY FREE WILL, OH WHY DID I GIVE MAN FREE WILL".

 

Funny I just asked for chapter and verse also, don't hold your breathe, it's a perfect example of man spouting out something he either heard somewhere, believes in fallen reason, but has zero scriptural support, I GUARANTEE YOU this guy, out of frustration for not being able to find one verse to support his position will attack up personally, watch I've done this along time