The Sin of the Consumption of Blood

[MennoSota]

No, you just don't follow the commands of God, which the apostles even instructed,

Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. (Acts 15:20 [NIV])

You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell. (Acts 15:29 [NIV])

You think someone who follows these commands is a Judaizer, when it is in fact quite the contrary,

"If you love me, keep my commands. (John 14:15 [NIV])

You are a disobedient child because you discard commands as simple as abstaining from blood.

Context is key in order to understand the letter composed at the Jerusalem council.
Who were the weaker brothers the council was trying not to offend?

There is no "thus saith the Lord" in that letter. There is a recommendation.

Do you reject blood transfusions?

 

[Aaron]

Obviously it is not sin if you do not know the meat was offered to an idol, but then if you ask, and receive knowledge that it was, then it is indeed sin, hence,

If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. But if someone says to you, "This has been offered in sacrifice," then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. (1 Corinthians 10:27-28 [NIV])

Your interpretation is fallacious, but my point was that not every activity banned at the apostolic convention was something sinful or unclean.

I am making this a point because most of you break this command quite frequently, hence why you are objecting and grumbling against this simple teaching, clearly indicating that you do not have regard for abstaining from blood and preparing your meats properly to obey this command. Many of you say you love God, and believe in God, yet you have no regard for his commands, even as simple as abstaining from blood.

You know, Paul circumcised Timothy so he wouldn't give offense to the Jews, but would not suffer Titus to be circumcised to counter the Judaizers.

I think the admonition telling me to let no man judge me in meet or drink applies here, lest your legalism cloud the issues of the nature of sin and of the atonement.

Now where's that black pudding?

 

[HankD]

No, you just don't follow the commands of God, which the apostles even instructed,

Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. (Acts 15:20 [NIV])

You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell. (Acts 15:29 [NIV])

You think someone who follows these commands is a Judaizer, when it is in fact quite the contrary,

"If you love me, keep my commands. (John 14:15 [NIV])

You are a disobedient child because you discard commands as simple as abstaining from blood.

At the time of the writing of the book of Acts the canon of scripture was developing.

Romans 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

HankD

 

[robycop3]

This is all horse feathers, and smacks of Jehovah Witnessism. The meat we eat now still has some blood in it. & there's no way the ancients coulda drained all the blood from their meat, either. Speaking thru Paul, Jesus said to not question what is set on the table in fronta you to eat, but to thank God for it & eat it with a clear conscience.

 

[Adonia]

This is all horse feathers, and smacks of Jehovah Witnessism. The meat we eat now still has some blood in it. & there's no way the ancients coulda drained all the blood from their meat, either. Speaking thru Paul, Jesus said to not question what is set on the table in fronta you to eat, but to thank God for it & eat it with a clear conscience.

Not so according to the Jewish Encyclopedia. It says in part : "A condiment for food. From earliest times salt was indispensable to the Israelites for flavoring food. Having a copious supply in their own country, they could obtain it with little trouble. The Dead or "Salt" Sea (Gen. xiv. 3; Josh. iii. 16) holds in solution not less than 24.57 kg. of salt in 100 kg. of water, and after every flood, upon the evaporation of the water, a coarse-grained salt is left behind in the pools and ditches. Saltpits, in which salt was thus obtained, are mentioned in Zeph. ii. 9 ("mikreh melaḥ") and in I Macc. ii. 35".

There are also several other paragraphs dealing with the use of salt by the early Jewish people, especially in the draining of meat.

 

[christiang]

This is all horse feathers, and smacks of Jehovah Witnessism. The meat we eat now still has some blood in it. & there's no way the ancients coulda drained all the blood from their meat, either. Speaking thru Paul, Jesus said to not question what is set on the table in fronta you to eat, but to thank God for it & eat it with a clear conscience.

How ignorant. As if salt didn't exist in those days to drain blood from meats, yet here we have Jesus Christ giving us parables concerning "salt of the earth".

 

[MennoSota]

Ya know what's not mentioned in the Bible? Corn...and potatoes. Obviously the key to eating kosher is to move to the New World where the food is clearly kosher! [emoji41] [emoji489] [emoji500] [emoji519] [emoji521] [emoji531] [emoji522] [emoji535] [emoji535] [emoji535] [emoji535]

 

[HankD]

Ya know what's not mentioned in the Bible? Corn...and potatoes. Obviously the key to eating kosher is to move to the New World where the food is clearly kosher! [emoji41] [emoji489] [emoji500] [emoji519] [emoji521] [emoji531] [emoji522] [emoji535] [emoji535] [emoji535] [emoji535]

Actually ALL animal flesh is kosher including pork.

Peter was instructed to kill and eat the "unclean".

Acts 10
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

So Jesus made pork kosher.

Enjoy those BBQ ribs!



HankD

 

[MennoSota]

Actually ALL animal flesh is kosher including pork.

Peter was instructed to kill and eat the "unclean".

Acts 10
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

So Jesus made pork kosher.

Enjoy those BBQ ribs!



HankD

Did God really say "that call not thou"? I gotta think it came out smoother in Aramaic. [emoji41]

 

[HankD]

Did God really say "that call not thou"? I gotta think it came out smoother in Aramaic. [emoji41]

Oops - Elizabethan period English translation...

Standard English translation:

NIV Acts 10
13 Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14 "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."
15 The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

Hmm, Aramaic to koine Greek to 21st century English.

Still means KOSHER PORK!

HankD

 

[robycop3]

Reminds me of Jehovah Witnesses. All the meat we eat has SOME blood in it, and the ancients couldn't drain it all any more than we can. After all, uncooked ground beef is RED. Let us remember what Jesus said thru Paul - to eat what is set on the table before you with a clear conscience, not worrying about whether it was offered to idols beforehand or not, etc. etc.

 

[HankD]

NIV Matthew 15:11 What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'"

HankD

 

[Adonia]

Reminds me of Jehovah Witnesses. All the meat we eat has SOME blood in it, and the ancients couldn't drain it all any more than we can. After all, uncooked ground beef is RED. Let us remember what Jesus said thru Paul - to eat what is set on the table before you with a clear conscience, not worrying about whether it was offered to idols beforehand or not, etc. etc.

Sure the ancients could drain the blood from the meat just as we can. You soak it in a salt solution and then wrap it in salt and the blood does indeed come out. Beef is not red because blood flows through the cow, as blood also circulates through poultry and pork yet their meat is white, not red. The meats we buy at the grocery store or eat at restaurants does not undergo the salting process therefore blood still remains in those meats.

 

[HankD]

Sure the ancients could drain the blood from the meat just as we can. You soak it in a salt solution and then wrap it in salt and the blood does indeed come out. You have no idea what you are talking about. The meats we buy at the grocery store or eat at restaurants does not undergo that process and yes, there is still blood in that meat.

The final step is cooking to "well done" even then there is coagulated blood in the meat but it is not liquid so the mitzvah is fulfilled (if you are under the law).

HankD

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Black Pudding: Yum! The best part of a full English breakfast.

 

[HankD]

Black Pudding: Yum! The best part of a full English breakfast.

Technically Blood sausage would be OK.

Once someone gave me blood soup without telling me what it was. When he did I literally wretched and felt sick for the rest of the evening.

HankD

 

[Adonia]

Technically Blood sausage would be OK.

Once someone gave me blood soup without telling me what it was. When he did I literally wretched and felt sick for the rest of the evening.

HankD

My family is French from Quebec and boudin (blood sausage) was a staple in my house. Goes great with some eggs!

 

[HankD]

My family is French from Quebec and boudin (blood sausage) was a staple in my house. Goes great with some eggs!

I can handle blood sausage!

HankD

 

[MennoSota]

My family is French from Quebec and boudin (blood sausage) was a staple in my house. Goes great with some eggs!

Which kinds of eggs would you recommend? Robin, Bluebird, Turkey, Ostrich, what? [emoji41]

 

[HankD]

Which kinds of eggs would you recommend? Robin, Bluebird, Turkey, Ostrich, what? [emoji41]

gallus domesticus

HankD