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Featured The Sin of the Consumption of Blood

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by christiang, Jun 15, 2017.

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  1. MennoSota

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    Context is key in order to understand the letter composed at the Jerusalem council.
    Who were the weaker brothers the council was trying not to offend?

    There is no "thus saith the Lord" in that letter. There is a recommendation.

    Do you reject blood transfusions?
     
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    Your interpretation is fallacious, but my point was that not every activity banned at the apostolic convention was something sinful or unclean.

    You know, Paul circumcised Timothy so he wouldn't give offense to the Jews, but would not suffer Titus to be circumcised to counter the Judaizers.

    I think the admonition telling me to let no man judge me in meet or drink applies here, lest your legalism cloud the issues of the nature of sin and of the atonement.

    Now where's that black pudding?
     
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    At the time of the writing of the book of Acts the canon of scripture was developing.

    Romans 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

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    This is all horse feathers, and smacks of Jehovah Witnessism. The meat we eat now still has some blood in it. & there's no way the ancients coulda drained all the blood from their meat, either. Speaking thru Paul, Jesus said to not question what is set on the table in fronta you to eat, but to thank God for it & eat it with a clear conscience.
     
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    Not so according to the Jewish Encyclopedia. It says in part : "A condiment for food. From earliest times salt was indispensable to the Israelites for flavoring food. Having a copious supply in their own country, they could obtain it with little trouble. The Dead or "Salt" Sea (Gen. xiv. 3; Josh. iii. 16) holds in solution not less than 24.57 kg. of salt in 100 kg. of water, and after every flood, upon the evaporation of the water, a coarse-grained salt is left behind in the pools and ditches. Saltpits, in which salt was thus obtained, are mentioned in Zeph. ii. 9 ("mikreh melaḥ") and in I Macc. ii. 35".

    There are also several other paragraphs dealing with the use of salt by the early Jewish people, especially in the draining of meat.
     
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    How ignorant. As if salt didn't exist in those days to drain blood from meats, yet here we have Jesus Christ giving us parables concerning "salt of the earth".
     
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    Ya know what's not mentioned in the Bible? Corn...and potatoes. Obviously the key to eating kosher is to move to the New World where the food is clearly kosher!
     
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    Actually ALL animal flesh is kosher including pork.

    Peter was instructed to kill and eat the "unclean".

    Acts 10
    13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
    14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
    15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

    So Jesus made pork kosher.

    Enjoy those BBQ ribs!

    :D

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    Did God really say "that call not thou"? I gotta think it came out smoother in Aramaic.
     
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    Oops - Elizabethan period English translation...:)

    Standard English translation:

    NIV Acts 10
    13 Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
    14 "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."
    15 The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

    Hmm, Aramaic to koine Greek to 21st century English.

    Still means KOSHER PORK! :D

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    Reminds me of Jehovah Witnesses. All the meat we eat has SOME blood in it, and the ancients couldn't drain it all any more than we can. After all, uncooked ground beef is RED. Let us remember what Jesus said thru Paul - to eat what is set on the table before you with a clear conscience, not worrying about whether it was offered to idols beforehand or not, etc. etc.
     
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    NIV Matthew 15:11 What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'"

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    Sure the ancients could drain the blood from the meat just as we can. You soak it in a salt solution and then wrap it in salt and the blood does indeed come out. Beef is not red because blood flows through the cow, as blood also circulates through poultry and pork yet their meat is white, not red. The meats we buy at the grocery store or eat at restaurants does not undergo the salting process therefore blood still remains in those meats.
     
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    The final step is cooking to "well done" even then there is coagulated blood in the meat but it is not liquid so the mitzvah is fulfilled (if you are under the law).

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    Black Pudding: Yum! The best part of a full English breakfast. :)
     
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    Technically Blood sausage would be OK.

    Once someone gave me blood soup without telling me what it was. When he did I literally wretched and felt sick for the rest of the evening.

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    My family is French from Quebec and boudin (blood sausage) was a staple in my house. Goes great with some eggs!
     
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    I can handle blood sausage! :)

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    Which kinds of eggs would you recommend? Robin, Bluebird, Turkey, Ostrich, what?
     
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    gallus domesticus

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