Yep, just leave it alone long enough and it will crash Its self.Yeah. Anybody can crash a plane. The trick is to not crash it. That takes a little more talent.
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9/11 Revisited
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Did you see what the B25 Mitchell did to the Empire State Building? Parts of it flew through the building and hit other buildings. The Empire is much heavier constructed than WTC. A Mitchell weighs less than 1/10th of the weight of a 757. The Mitchell was traveling at 1/3rd the speed. The Mitchell had very little fuel on board at time of collision.
Actually, with neutral trim it might go on until it runs out of fuel. Even if not trimmed properly, it would probably porpoise. As it nosed down it would pick up speed creating more lift from the wings and start to climb, slowing it down and causing it to nose down and pick up speed and more lift and . . . on and on until it ran out of fuel or hit a high enough mountain.
Yep, that's why I said "long enough."Actually, with neutral trim it might go on until it runs out of fuel. Even if not trimmed properly, it would probably porpoise. As it nosed down it would pick up speed creating more lift from the wings and start to climb, slowing it down and causing it to nose down and pick up speed and more lift and . . . on and on until it ran out of fuel or hit a high enough mountain.
My brother-in-law flew B25s during WWII. (But not into the ESB!)
Oh, please. You are comparing apples and metal. Are you serious with that analogy? Have you looked closely at the earliest photos of the round hole in the Pentagon and seriously thought about what it could -or couldn't - be?
Yes. It could be a 757. It could not be a tomahawk cruise missile.
Uh, no. Where do you get that? The ETC was built with her collisions in mind. That rembered history.
We know exactly what it was. A hole made by the landing gear after separating from the main spar.
Yeah. They built it to withstand the impact of a 707 traveling at 180 mph. The 767 weighs more and was traveling at 580 mph. And was carrying 10,000 gallons of jet fuel. Do the math.
The fact that "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth was formed 5 years after the WTC towers came down" does not lead to the logical conclusion that none of them examined the wreckage. Actually, Ground Zero was cordoned off and it was a crime to take a picture of it or even to stop to look at the wreckage. The wreckage was removed from the site as soon as possible, sent to Staten Island and then immediately shipped to China. In a way your statement is somewhat true because access to Ground Zero was were limited. Does your son have an explanation of our inability to scramble fighters to protect the two most important cities in the country? There are Air Force and Air National Guard based within 25 miles of both cities. The normal protocol would be to scramble fighters when the aircraft transponders were turned off and there was a loss of radio contact? This would have allowed plenty of time to get fighters up in the air.
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Leslie E. Robertson - Chief Engineer of the World Trade Center
In 1966, Robertson designed the structural elements of the WTC towers to withstand the impact of the largest airliner then in service, the Boeing 707.
To summarize the aircraft:
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds.
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.
The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet.
The wingspan of a Boeing 767 is 156 feet.
The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.
The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.
The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel.
The Boeing 767 could carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.
The cruise speed of a Boeing 707 is 607 mph = 890 ft/s,
The cruise speed of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.
The Boeing 707 and 767 are very similar aircraft, with the main differences being that the 767 is slightly heavier and the 707 is faster.
Since the Boeing 707 had a higher thrust to weight ratio, it would be traveling faster on take-off and on landing.
The thrust to weight ratio for a Boeing 707 is 4 x 18,000/336,000 = 0.214286.
The thrust to weight ratio for a Boeing 767 is 2 x 31,500/395,000 = 0.159494.
In all the likely variations of an accidental impact with the WTC, the Boeing 707 would be traveling faster. In terms of impact damage, this higher speed would more than compensate for the slightly lower weight of the Boeing 707.
In conclusion we can say that if the twin towers were designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 707, then they were necessarily designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 767.
There were immense pools of molten steel under ground zero for days if not weeks. How would your blacksmith explain that? And why did he use a steel bar heated to 300 degrees F above the heat of burning jet fuel in his little charade?
You really gotta do a little research rather than copy and pasting idiocy from conspiracy theory pages.
The 707 the WTC towers were built to withstand was the 707-120.
Fake. No "pools of molten steel" anywhere. Every person who has been said to have made that claim has stated they never said any such thing.
Read the John Farmer inquiry report.
What is the 9/11 Commission's budget?
Public Law 107-306 provided for the reprogramming of $3 million for the Commission. Congress subsequently appropriated, and the President signed into law, an additional $11 million appropriation for the Commission. Recent legislation authorized an additional $1 million, bringing the Commission’s total budget to $15 million
Clinton Administration Investigations
The new expenditures push the cost of the independent counsel's 4 1/2-year inquiry of the president and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton to $39.2 million. Starr was appointed to continue the investigation of the Clinton's Whitewater land deal. The probe was expanded in January 1998 to include the Lewinsky matter.
Before Starr's appointment, a special counsel appointed by Attorney General Janet Reno had spent $6 million on a probe of Whitewater.
Besides Starr, five other independent counsels are currently conducting investigations. Four of those focus on the Clinton Administration. The combined costs of those four inquiries and the Starr probe now comes to $79.3 million.
How about some proof of your statement? I'll find support for mine.
Who cares? Lewinski/Clinton is not the topic under discussion. Please stay on topic.
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