Featured The Most Asked Question During Ordination Exam

Unknown Tongues is its own discussion, but we agree on prophecy. Any prophecy that does not perfectly harmonize with scripture is false. Any "prophet" who gives prophecy that does not come true is a false prophet. That fact in and of its self eliminates about 99% of the modern "prophets."

 

My ordination questioning was "easy", as far as ordinations go. Everyone on my council has known me since I was a child (or in the case of one, a teenager) and many were responsible for instilling the correct doctrine in me.

Since they knew me and what I believed, for me, the questioning was more a discussion of how I was going to lead the church that has been dropped in my lap as a 22 year old.

Spoiler: the church had a LOT of problems before I took it, including the fact that the previous pastor basically disappeared. It was one of those small churches run by a single family. Or more specifically, a mother and daughter in that family.

We butted heads quite a bit. And in the end, I was there less than a year before moving on to become a youth pastor at a church a few hours away.

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

 

Don't know how you figure that. Charisma is more widespread now in the SBC than at any point in history. The SBC President even issued a statement of tolerance about it not too long ago. They walked back the missionary disqualification.

 

The ordination Council in this association would fight about it. They would then have a third point to fight about.

 

You said "they are finally seeing the gifts died with John." I am not debating that with you. I am saying the practice of tongues in SBC is more popular now than at any point in history. Genuine or not would be another discussion.

 

Why the apostle John?

 

Wow. Where are you guys hanging out?

 

He was the last of the original apostles, but there were more than 12 apostles. I would say there were 24 or 25 named or mentioned but not directly named.
We know the gift of tongues was widespread in the early Church. The day John died all the believers who had spoken in tongues for many years could no longer speak in tongues? Bet without CNN to tell them John died, they were confused as to what happened.

 

Your opinion. You can make a case it ended, but you can not come anywhere close to proving it beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

There are a lot of Southern Baptists who speak in tongues. Tongues is no longer a disqualification from being approved by the mission board.

 

Admittedly there are those that have experienced some gibberish charismatic fluff of which many boast, BUT THAT IS NOT the tongues of 1 Cor. 13.

The tongues of 1 Cor. 13 are actual earthly languages.

Folks such as Tyndale had and have such a gift, it is not passed away. Tyndale was fluent in eight. I can hardly function with one.

It may not be acquired the same way, just as healing may take place by medical personnel, but the gift remains. There are those who are gifted multilingual. Such has not passed away.

Cassidy and I disagree on when the cessation occurs. He places it at the death of John, I place it at the start of the millennium. We use the same verse as proof. I just show that if the apostle Paul didn’t see clearly, himself, then the only time when all is seen and known is at the start of the millennium. No doubts, nothing unknown in Scriptures starting then.

What BOTH Cassidy and I agree upon is that there is NO PLACE for some gibberish such as the charismatics hold. It is not Biblical.

The “unknown tongues” of the Bible are earth languages.

The prophecy must conform to what is consistent in and with the Scriptures.

There have been times when overwhelmed I had to rely totally on the working of the Holy Spirit to process the words acceptable to the Father. But those are private, in the closet times that are no ones business.

Eli thought Samuel’s mother drunk, as she poured out her complaint to God.

How sad, when believers can go their whole life and not met the Father in such condition and find Him completely trustworthy. It is not a time of bragging, but a reflection that bring rejoicing.

 

....sounds about right:

28 Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Mt 16

21 Peter therefore seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? Follow thou me. Jn 21

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. Mt 24