Ten doctrines which render Rome outside of Christ

Have to kill the fire ants in some safe way. Can't use poison, too hazardous for the kids who play in the sand.

 

Yea, right, invite them in to your sandbox so you can kill them. That's some real hospitality there.

 

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The ants weren't invited, they show up because it is an interesting place, easy to access, and ready supply of food.

 

Why the Other 'CHRISTIAN' Denominations Forum then?

You know how bigoted you're coming accross as when you refer to other Christians as ants? You need to repent.

 

Lol! Zactly!

 

Paul also never said to in engage in MOLOCH WORSHIP . Something that goes on ever day of the week in your Adventists hospitals allowed by your SDA Guidelines: 'The final decision whether to terminate the pregnancy or not should be made by the pregnant woman after appropriate consultation.'


https://www.adventist.org/en/information/official-statements/guidelines/article/go/-/abortion/

 

The problem though is that there seem to many posting in that other forum who do not hold to the real Gospel, such as those in SDA/Church of Rome etc!

 

You consider Papist as brothers and sisters in Christ?

At least ants work and store for the support of the colony, but the Papist takes from others and builds great cathedrals as if God is impressed with brick and mortar.

I have yet to meet a believer of the Scripture who did not see the papists as a cult working to enslave people for control to the papist benefit.

History, itself, cries out with the truth of the matter.

That group has been given centuries to repent, centuries to examine their own house in the light of Scriptures, centuries of chasing after thousands who withstood their wild ungodly claims donating their blood. Yet, the papist is obstinate in believing their church is the only authorized. It isn’t even true that they are the original, much less the one God approves.

The ants should be embarrassed by the association.

 

Until you read 1 Cor 10

19 What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons.

Abortions in America would entirely cease if your Catholic Judges on the SCOTUS could bring themselves to vote against abortion -- and we all know it.

By contrast if all SDA judges on SCOTUS voted against it... no change.

And we both know it.

 

If all Catholic judges on the Supreme Court voted against abortion... no more abortion.

As for "SDA church doctrine" we have a published 28 fundamental beliefs - and not one of them favors abortion. Not one.

-- details details.

 

Some catholic posters may have "imagined to themselves" that this thread is only about one issue in the RCC that is a "gap" issue between Catholicism and Protestants.


from "500 years Protesting WHAT?"

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Since there is at least some focus this month on the reformation, the protestant reformation and how wide the GAP is between protestant doctrine and Catholicism - lets work out some of the details.

While Luther may have "started" with 95 objections to selling indulgences.. that is not the sum total of the "gap" between protestantism and catholicism.

Foundational in Protestantism is this - (at the very least).

1. Sola Scriptura - Acts 17:11 (testing all doctrine and practice against the standard of the Bible instead of Bible+traditions-of-men). Col 2:22 "—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men"

2. Grace alone (mankind is saved by grace through faith - Ephesians 2) not saved by powers of sacrament or powers in a "rite" or ritual plus ...

3. Faith alone - justified by faith alone - meaning that when the lost person comes to Christ - they are saved not on the basis of good works done as a lost person - but saved by faith alone.

4. Christ alone - "there is no OTHER name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved" -- so then no earthly priest or pope stands between us and Christ who is the "one mediator between God and man" 1 Tim 2:5-6

We come boldly to the throne of grace - directly to God in prayer. No earthly mediator or Pope between.

(And of course both sides agree that all the glory goes to God alone for the plan of salvation)

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I am not sure that whatever meetings are going on this month and next .. in Germany are going to find agreement on the points listed above.

In addition there is in the "gap" between the Bible and catholicism

1. Prayers to the dead -- called "the Dead in Christ" in 1Thess 4.
2. Claims to confect the "body, blood,soul and divinity of Christ in the mass" - by contrast Christ was offered up "once for all" Hebrews 10 and no earthly priest has been given the powers to confect the "body, blood,soul and divinity of Christ in the mass"
3. The "doctrine of discovery" regarding what Catholics are allowed to do to the natives of newly discovered lands in cases where those natives refuse to convert to Catholicism
4. Infallibility of Catholic church councils and popes.
5. Authorizing violence against Christians for "thought crimes" for doctrinal differences with the Papacy.
6. Editing the Sabbath Commandment to point it to week-day-1
7. Apocryphal books injected into the Bible canon -- (books that even Jerome declared were not legitmately part of the Canon of scripture)
8. The Pope's claim to in any way be the head or leader of any denomination on earth - other than his own denomination - the Roman Catholic Church.
9. Purgatory -- does not exist according to the Bible but the RCC promotes it anyway.
10. Praying to angels
11. Bowing down before images to pray to and to promise to serve those whom they represent.
12. The idea that Catholic Church tradition holds equal weight to scripture or that an understanding of scripture that does not agree with the RCC is by definition incorrect.
13. Monastic celibate orders that appear to have promoted certain forms of sin at some level within the group.
14. "power" in the bishop or the priest to give sacraments power to mark the soul, or effect the New Birth, or forgive sins.. etc.

I am probably missing a few of the topics in "the gap" between Catholicism and Protestantism
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So then what are the odds that the folks in Germany are ever going to be able to close the gap on such key doctrinal points of difference?

 

Then that rules out the RCC ... root of many many schisms and source of extermination of many protesting Catholics.

 

The RCC argument is that the "carbon atoms" in that bread are the "carbon atoms" of the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ - and no longer the "carbon atoms" of bread.

As if that is supposed to make sense

 

You have 'Papist' on the brain, Old Man. I know several Catholics, my doctor and my lawyer being two of them, that are devout Christians, as upright as any other Christians I know. You scorn the 'Papist', but I bet you'd bow to a Jew.

 

So you have the right gospel?

 

Yea, cause they got the money..... .... just kidding

 

If they are “devout” to Christ, why would they desire to remain in fellowship with that which is anti-Christ?

I once ask a priest to validate with only Scripture the robes of the church, or the ornaments and trappings of there worship, or their prayers to idols and “saints,” or their view of purgatory, or their view of the confessional, or their view of the last rights, or their view of baptism...

He admitted he could not do so without consulting the statements and creeds of the church which relied not upon Scripture but upon statements made about such things by others.

And for your attention, I hold the Jew just as ungodly as I hold any heathen.

But, there is one difference between the Jews and the papists.

The papists knowing teach a lie, and the Jews according to Paul are purposefully by God blinded in part. They remain in such condition until the time of the gentiles draws to a close and the Second coming occurs.

Oh my, you don’t hold to that eschatology, never mind. It isn’t important. Just know I witness to any and every as God allows the opportunity irregardless of their genetics and heritage.

 

The ones I know are in no way 'antichrist', by all appearances they live by the golden rule.

Careful. You could be banned for being anti-Semitic like they did to Saint of Circumstance. Maybe you'd like to see all these 'Papists' banned. Invite them to the sandbox, and then ban them.

 

Never desired such.

What I do expect is honesty.

What I do expect is for papists to use Scriptures as rational for their thinking.

But, according to their own words, they place the truth as being determined by the church.

A church that is over run with lies and perversion. A church that committed murder and lended support to the ungodly for the purpose of perverting Justice. A church that sought to keep the truth from the common people and extort from the poorest and distressed great sums under the guise of purchasing salvation.

These are not long ago events, but continue without regret to this day.

What I do expect is the papist to confront themselves with the Scripture truth and pray God will not hold them guilty.