Is America Under Judgement From God? Is America Under An Abandonment Judgement From God?

It is correct that the ungodly human heart devises evil, and publishes evil as being good.

Wars in the past have been moderated by technology in that more were not killed. Such is no longer the case.

Because of the technology advancements, the prophecies of the destruction of huge amounts of the earth revealed in the 7 bowls of Revelation can be taken literally, where just a 100 years ago, many taught them as allegory or hyperbole, if they were taught at all.

Where is the Holy Spirit?

What assembly earnestly desires to be cleansed from the worldly influences? Rather, chases after the worldly to appear attractive. Just as Jezebel, the excess and deviousness is covered.

What believer earnestly stores the Scriptures in the very core of their life to guide them away from sinfulness? Learning of discernment and understanding is found in self help books and rallies.

The "shining light set upon a hill" is being extinguished.

That it happen soon or late will not deter the flame going out.

If not Scripture, then history holds such thinking as having veracity.

 

You omitted my point that many people died at the hands of their own governments in the twentieth century and quoted only a narrow range of selective statistics. The 20th century in terms of numbers, not percentages as you used, was the darkest century in history. It is estimated that communism alone worldwide murdered one hundred million in the last 100 years. You left out, for examples, Cambodia and Cuba, not to mention other areas of Latin America. You left out Korea and Vietnam, etc. You have to compile an exhaustive list of all of the countries in the world, including all of the wars in Africa, etc., etc., etc.

 

Matthew 24
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Business as usual and suddenly they were caught by surprise...

Only a small remnant were delivered from the wrath of God.


HankD

 

The assembly of 8 souls was precious to God.

Yet, typically modern assemblies would mock at such a small group of the dedicated.

 

Because there is more people. So the numbers are higher. 10-15 percent of the population was not wiped out in the 20th century. Therefor I do not see it as the worst period in time.

I dont understand your reason for being the worse, just the loss of life?

there is a lot of ways this is the best century.

 

Before WWI, my father said that people thought the world was going to get better and better until the church ushered in the kingdom of God.

Amazing how a bit of world conflict changes thinking.

And the worse is yet to come.

Just on a side note, all the American dead totaled from the earliest conflicts through the Vietnam wars did not total the total number dead as a result of the War of Northern Agression.

 

Most native Americans were not “slaughtered by European settlers.” Neither were African slaves.

Both have times of great sorrow at the hand of ungodly, but so did and do believers have great sorrows. It is the inexcusable ungodly human nature.

The popular myths of mass killing are confined to a couple plains groups who bore the brunt of excess, but not by European settlers.

It is enough to lay much evil treatment and broken vows being done upon both groups by the US government. There is no valid excuse for one to claim to be a follower of Christ and suppose He will hold them and the people they represent guiltless.

On aside note, there is a pattern of excessive ungodly treatment toward the grand south by the northern invaders “march to the sea,” that parallels that of the excess encouraged by the same officers toward the plains Native American. “The only good Indian is a dead Indian” was from the mouth of Gen. Sherman, repeated in Theodore Roosevelt’s speech as, “9 out of 10 are.”

It is also noteworthy that the US was not covered over with huge numbers of Native Americans. The population numbers of South and Central America has historically been greater than the family groupings above the Rio Grand.

 

There is no class division, ALL murder is of the Cain and Abel type.

Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

HankD

 

Well, it's not an everyday event when Christians rejoice in the misfortune of others or show a practice of "righteous indignation"
but we should remember that Jesus was not politically correct in His treatment of people

Matthew 23:33 You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

True, He was no doubt trying to shame these "vipers" into repentance and hopefully that is what our objective is when we give others a taste of their own medicine.

HankD

 

More than once, I pondered was He shaming them, or just confirming (as God did Pharaoh) the hardness?

 

The corpses were stacked to the sky. In the USA in the 20th century there must have been 30 million abortions due to the government removing due process from the unborn child and saying in effect that the unborn child was not a human being in spite of the scientific evidence to the contrary. No says that the 20th century was a good century. Stalin starved the Ukraine just as Castro is starving Cuba and Maduro is starving Venezuela, a country that has more oil than Saudi Arabia. You have already mentioned some of the wars in the 20th century and there were many others that you did not mention. Idi Amin killed 100,000 and ate some of them. What about what the Duvaliers did to Haiti? What about the Mexican revolution and all of the dead there and the restrictions put on freedom of religion in Mexico that no priest could appear outside of a church in clerical garb? In conclusion, the 20th century was the bloodiest in human history. The only thing worse would have to have been Noah's Flood of 4,500 years ago that destroyed the entire world, including all people except Noah and the seven people on the Ark with him.

 

Both maybe?

Well, its true that snakes are coldblooded but I think God wants human "snakes" to be saved anyway.

HankD

 

If you are just relying on actual body count then ok. I cant argue a fact such as that.

What else makes it worse?

The average life expectancy in the 17th century was only 39 years. Is that better?

 

What "facts" were /are offered by the government that an unborn child is not a human being?

HankD

 

There is no due process for the unborn child. Thurgood Marshall and others said that it was up to the mother. It is an echo of the Dred Scott case,

 

You have made some excellent points. My generation--more or less the silent generation (those born during the Great Depression)--trusted big government. It was a mistake. Big government destroys prosperity and freedom. Not only did the American government legalize abortion, but it also ran a deficit and a debt since 1932 with no end in sight. Indeed, it is likely that the American government will default on the national debt. American intellectuals are money-lovers who have no conscience and engage in endless lies to feather their own nests. They are not the best and the brightest but they are the most ruthless. In summary, the American government is just as bloody as all of the other nations of the world when it comes to slaughtering the unborn children.