All There Is About Parousia

That one world ruler man at the end of times that rebuilds the temple in Jerusalem bringing peace to 15 millions jews and 1.6 billion muslims?

 

Thank you JoJ.

HankD

 

In the parallel
Luke 21
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Yeah that already happened, in AD 70.

But alright, I wont say anymore on that.

The thread is yours captain.

 

Armies is plural.
21 Century:

Last one to join before the parousia - Russia.

 

and then we are to flee into the mountains of Judea from our flat roof houses, praying its not on a sabbath.

 

Only if you are a Jew in Israel at the parousia.

HankD

 

....a first century Jew:

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. Mt 24:34

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, until all these things be accomplished. Mk 13:30

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all things be accomplished. Lk 21:32

When You See Jerusalem Surrounded.....

 

This Generation - this is the generation which sees the invasion of Israel just before the parousia.

HankD

 

Yes. As I said, FIRST CENTURY JEWS. The scripture is very plainly self interpreting concerning 'this generation':

From Matthew:
28 Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Mt 16
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. Mt 24

From Mark:
1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There are some here of them that stand by, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God come with power. Mk 9
30 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, until all these things be accomplished. Mk 13

From Luke:
27 But I tell you of a truth, There are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Lk 9
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all things be accomplished. Lk 21

 

Then they are still here on planet earth awaiting the parousia and the events surrounding it and the generation who will be alive at the time.

HankD

 

Wow, then maybe we should put a search out for the apostle John:

21 Peter therefore seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? Follow thou me. Jn 21

It'd be really neat to talk to him.

 

It was a "literal" coming, In judgment by the roman armies, in the first century, prophesied by Jesus to first century Jews in a temple that was still standing in the first century, a temple that was prophesied to be destroyed in that same generation (the first century), that actually did in that same century (the 1st) and generation.


"Besides these [signs], a few days after that feast, on the one- and-twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared; I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the] temple, as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence" (Jewish Wars, VI-V-3).

Tacitus
"13. Prodigies had occurred, but their expiation by the offering of victims or solemn vows is held to be unlawful by a nation which is the slave of superstition and the enemy of true beliefs. In the sky appeared a vision of armies in conflict, of glittering armour. A sudden lightning flash from the clouds lit up the Temple. The doors of the holy place abruptly opened, a superhuman voice was heard to declare that the gods were leaving it, and in the same instant came the rushing tumult of their departure. Few people placed a sinister interpretation upon this. The majority were convinced that the ancient scriptures of their priests alluded to the present as the very time when the Orient would triumph and from Judaea would go forth men destined to rule the world." (Histories, Book 5, v. 13).

Eusebius of Caesarea
"For before the setting of the sun chariots and armed troops were seen throughout the whole region in mid-air, wheeling through the clouds and encircling the cities" (Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History, Book 3, Ch. 8).

When these 1st century Jews asked these questions, they didn't understand Jesus was leaving, so how could they have asked about a coming back? They were asking about the end of OC Judaism and the beginning of Christ's kingdom.

 

Yikes, Do you think the Apostle John uses internet forums?

 

Thats based on your preconceived idea of this passage.

Well in the future when it happens hopefully the Jewish people, for the lack of vehicles, can flee to the mountains from sitting on the flat top roofs, praying its not a sabbath day.

All these modern day armies from Hanks picture wouldn't see people fleeing?

I want to know if this is future, why are these armies surrounding Jerusalem? who are they going to war with? Isn't "nicolae carpathia" already sitting in this rebuilt temple?