Poor Old "Uncle Billy"

Surprisingly that is more the condition of the Non-cal.

The non-cal's significant claim to fame is that the individual can determine their own fate, at their own time, of their own choosing.

They also have the freedom of the will to reject at any point or in the future.

So, "deterministic by default" is actually far more evident in the camp of the Non-Cal.

 

God bless you. You have patience.

You've explained several times in one post the fallacy of the premise.

Basically, it's a strawman. It's what thatbrian does. Every day.


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Ahhh, this guys attitude just hits me as funny. My mother used to say you either know something cold or you don’t know it... so either you know something or you don’t know it. But this guy thinks he knows everything thus he is doctor knowitall and since he is right then you must be wrong... and don’t argue the point. Well from where I come from there is a vulgar expression uttered to address the issue, hard and direct and definitive... care to guess?

 

Why does Uncle Billy like strawberry ice cream and I despise it?

 

Thankfully we don't have to be perfect in any way to come to Christ.

 

There ya go.

That's an honest answer. The ones who choose Christ have more virtue than the ones who don't.

If God has elected "whosoever believeth," and whosoever believeth doeth so because of the presence of a virtue in them, then God has elected a quality, not an individual.

There's no way around it.

 

He creates in me a new heart.

 

As if some merit acquired or established by that person in which God recognizes as righteous virtue that activates God's election?

As you stated, such thinking is having the election of a quality rather then the individual.

That is a violation of John 1.

"12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."
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God empowers not by virtue but by doing nothing. The light is turned on and the persons that do not turn away as all others do, but remains in the light. To those God gives the right (authority, power, endowment) to be His adopted sons.

This is the clear teaching of John 1

 

No part. That is why I said thankfully I don't have to be perfect.

 

Aaron, this is a very hard mirror to look at for it reveals an equally hard truth. We bring absolutely nothing that can even be considered remotely meritorious to God. We do not even bring good intentions. Romans 3 could not be any clearer. When a sinner comes to Christ, the Holy Spirit has already done a work in the sinner's heart. We are given no other reason than it was due to the kind intention of His will (Eph. 1:5). In His smiling providence, God prevailed upon the dead sinner's heart and breathed into it new life. My prayer is that God will grant me the ability to plumb even the surface of this truth so that it will create in me a holy gratitude expressed in a life of service.