Synergist and Monergist: Better Terms

Here "comes to Me" refers to a change in location, being transferred into Christ. Therefore, they will not be cast out of Christ. The proponents are holding an empty sack

 

Yes we agree, ;you man-made doctrine is bogus.

 

Those who come to Jesus prove by that they are chosen first for and by God!

 

I did not know both Jesus and Paul were teaching bogus theology!
We Calvinist based our theology upon what they both taught!

 

Hi Yeshua1, you do not seem to know how to use a lexicon. How would you know that Jesus and Paul taught Calvinism?
You just made that up, but are unable to support it. OTOH, Jesus taught that the people of Matthew 23:13 were entering heaven, something your bogus doctrine denies. Paul taught that men of flesh can understand spiritual milk, something your bogus doctrine denies.

 

Yet another made up assertion, utterly unbiblical. We are chosen through faith in the truth, 2 Thessalonians 2:13.

 

Chosen by God to be in jesus before the foundation of the world, correct?

 

'Come to me, all you who labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.' Is the Lord Jesus telling people to transfer themselves into Christ?
John 5:40. 'But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.' Is this being transferred into Christ a voluntary act that people can refuse to do?

 

Yet another non-response to John 6:37 which is speaking of being transferred into Christ. Instead, we get deflection. The meaning of the phrase must be determined by context.

And note that two different phrase meanings have been loosely translated into the same English phrase, obliterating the contextual distinction of the inspired text. Shoddy to say the least.

 

Matthew 11:28
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.

Where are the lost given rest? In Christ or in Adam? Thus the very verse cited refers to a change of location.

John 5:40
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Is the idea to put their trust in Christ to receive life, or is the idea they are unwilling to be transferred into Christ?

Note that the vast majority of cases where the phrase appears, a change in location is in view.

 

We are chosen individually through faith in the truth, a conditional election. James 2:5, 1 Cor. 1:26-30, 2 Thessalonians 2:13.

 

Jesus, John , and paul all taught as a calvinist in regards to the method God uses to save lost sinners!

 

Spoken by the known textual critic Dr Van!

 

Chosen by God first....

 

Utterly false claim. Please provide the scripture. None will be forthcoming.

 

Another post addressing the poster. Another utterly false claim. More obfuscation, more running from the Light.

 

We are chosen individually through faith in the truth, a conditional election. James 2:5, 1 Corinthians. 1:26-30, 2 Thessalonians 2:13.

 

Jesus stated that ONLY his own sheep will hear his voice and follow Him, John stated to us that NONE come to jesus unless the father first draws them to Him, and paul stated that none of us will seek after God, all havegone astray from Him, correct?

 

We love God due to Him first loving and electing us!

 

Folks, did you see where Yeshua1 supported his claims or admitted he fabricated them? Neither did I. But did he continue to make claims and provide no reference to scripture? You bet.

Does the gospel with its message of lovingkindness draw all who behold Christ high and lifted up? John 12:32 Did Paul teach that everyone seeks God all the time? Nope. Did Paul teach we are not seeking God when we are sinning? You bet. So since there are none who seek God all the time, we are all under sin. We have all gone astray. Does that men we never seek God at any time? Nope.