Featured Pauline Doctrine not Calvanism nor Arminianism

No....that is not what he has said....
Again...how did people in Peru hear the gospel that week that Jesus hung on the cross???

 

No. Paul is saying that Israel has no excuse, for it has the truth of God in the Old Testament. Look at the context. It is not speaking of individuals. Look at the conjunction "but" in verses 18, 19, and 21. It joins every part of this passage together.

 

I bet that's why there was no such thing as Greek Calvinist. They already knew what scripture was saying.

 

This statement is difficult for me to understand. When something is found on every page of scripture how does someone not see it?

 

Boiled down, you're saying God sees greater good in some than in others, and they, therefore, merit His call.

Hogwash.

Rom 9:11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;

In other words, there was nothing in Jacob that put him ahead of Esau, nothing lacking in Esau that caused him to lag behind Jacob. They were both equally corrupt. God chose based on His own purpose.

 

Rev mac,

No one around the world knew of Jesus or the cross
There is no indication of this.
Isa1:9 is speaking of a remnant from one chosen nation.....Israel.

 

This science fiction is more weird than just plain fiction. Native American religion is pantheism dressed in mythology. What in the world gives you any indication they were awaiting the Messiah of the Bible?

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You are misusing the term Remnant very badly.
Heathen praying to a totem pole when not praying to Jesus they were praying to a demon Spirit behind the totem pole.
No one in other countries or even in America is still waiting for promise of a seed to come that is your own theological Fantasyland.

 

same reason needed a Luther, in order to recapture the true Gospel message for the Church, as that Gospel was nearly buried under the false on of the RCC!

 

What Yeshua is saying is SYNERGY. God was powerless and "NEEDED" a Luther because the gospel on its own was too weak.

Luther taught FAITH ALONE you didn't have to personally do anything. The hypocrisy is he does too much. He's a catholic priest who concludes his own faith is wrong. Well did he become a catholic priest for NOT believing the catholic faith? why all the deception?

He should have been a Muslim. He would have been a Imam, Muslim priest , oh hey guys our faith is wrong don't think this how Islam works. So let ME tell yo how its suppose to work.


If he had the correct faith all along in a lineage that makes sense. But he's just a nobody who not only agrees but gets ordained.

Someone goes to ENGLAND to learn ENGLISH, Becomes a ENGLISH Teacher even and then tells those in England that is not how English is spoken at all. So to resolve this I am starting a new language Lutharish and God can thank me.

 

The Choosing of Jacob vs. Esau is not a "Salvation Issue", it was to bring the Promised Seed--Christ. God chose the exact lineage to bring forth the Promised Seed of Genesis 3:15. Why would you confuse that? God chose a nation to birth the Messiah. God Chose Christ to bring Salvation and the New Creation and the True Kingdom of God. It's simple...

Abel, Not Cain
Isaac, Not Ishmael
Jacob, Not Esau
Ephraim, not Menesah
Grace, not Law
NT, not OT
Christ, not Adam

God Chooses the method and means, the Testament and Nation.

GOD CHOSE CHRIST TO BIRTH HIS FAMILY, NOT ADAM

It has to do with Birth right/Begotten-ness and Christ being Heir of All things--before the foundation of the world.

 

Have you spoken with native Americans? Several that i have spoken to believe the realities of Noah and also some sort of quasi-levitical sacrificial system. Not saying that is going to save them, but i've been told their beliefs are similar to OT worship.

 

The only problem here, of course, is that Paul makes it a "Salvation issue" by what he writes in Romans 9. He isn't talking merely about nations; he's talking about individuals.

The Archangel

 

LOL

ROMANS 9!!!

Unless of course, you realize that he's not talking about Individual SALVATION. God Chose Israel, not Edom...and He used Egypt as a way to Demonstrate His Power and Sovereignty.

Psalm 135
4 For the Lord has chosen Jacob for Himself,
Israel for His special treasure.

5 For I know that the Lord is great,
And our Lord is above all gods.
6 Whatever the Lord pleases He does,
In heaven and in earth,
In the seas and in all deep places.
7 He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;
He makes lightning for the rain;
He brings the wind out of His treasuries.

8 He destroyed the firstborn of Egypt,
Both of man and beast.
9 He sent signs and wonders into the midst of you, O Egypt,
Upon Pharaoh and all his servants.

 

But, you're not dealing with Romans 9, so it is my turn to "LOL." Demonstrate how Romans 9 says what you are saying it does. Of course, you cannot do so because in the passage Pharaoh himself is addressed--in the singular--and so it makes clear that this is (1) a salvation issue and (2) God may do as He pleases (have mercy on whomever He wills).

The Archangel

 

Because the Entire theme of Romans 9 is "What about Israel?" Romans 1-8 is about individual salvation--"Whosoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved". Romans 9-11 Answers the Question, "Ok what about Israel?"

Paul is addressing the statement, "God, it's not fair how you are treating Israel."--Regardless if you look at that positively or negatively. Read the Last parts of the Chapter--God is bringing judgment on Israel because they sought to be justified by the Works of the Law..Romans 9:30-33

Romans 10:21

Also, It was to address the Question...What do you mean Christ is the means for salvation? Not being part of Israel?

Line by Line through Romans 9

 

Nope.

Paul's use of "Children of God" in v. 8 negates your entire presupposition about the passage.

Blessings,

The Archangel