Freedom of assembly, association, expression, etc.?

I have already done some of that in my response to JonC, but I urge you to read the eloquent address of George W. Truett from the steps of the U.S. Capitol in 1920 - Baptists and Religious Liberty

Almost every Baptist confession of faith calls for separation of church and state, and if you look for Baptist writings that predate the Moral Majority's founding, you will find near uniformity on religious liberty. It is only when Baptists joined forces with evangelicals in groups such as the Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition that the influences of the mainline churches overwhelmed Baptist convictions.

 

I'm looking at our history since the Declaration of Independence was written. Do you believe we've held to the objectives of that document? we fought a civil war about whether blacks were slaves and then they really didn't get much freedom until the 1960's.The SBC didn't renounce its support for slavery until 1995. Women weren't equal either. They didn't get the vote until 1920 with the passage of the 19th amendment. Many people, especially the far right Neo-Nazi's and white supremacists still consider blacks and Hispanics to be inferior to whites. Now tell me about all men being equal in America.

 

Your view of religion is tainted with the combination of religion and politics. This is a false gospel and Jesus always rejected forming an earthly kingdom. Maybe you missed that part in Sunday school.

 

No, you have to interpret history through the eyes of that era in time. They did not need to say all "white" people because that was a given. Most at that time did not view colored races as people. They were viewed as sub- human.

 

You are confusing the website's goals with the historic document. I do not think Truett was reformed, but I am open to correction. Truett was the pastor of First Baptist Church, Dallas.

I referenced scripture in my extremely brief response to JonC, I referenced both the creation story (Genesis 1-2), the fall (Genesis 3) and Jesus' teaching about the separate authorities of God and Caesar (Luke 20:21-26). I didn't put down the scripture references because those passages are so familiar, I thought I would insult everyone involved by doing it.

If you are open to seeing religious liberty in the scripture, it leaps out at you. Would it be good news to you if it were true? If so, I will look for an online resource that can walk you through all of the most relevant scriptures.

No.

 

When we are in the heavens with the Lord before the resurrection, and then upon the reunified heavens and earth for eternity, there will be no need of religious liberty since all those who live will be willing worshippers of God in spirit and truth.

 

yea most people avoid it since it is nothing more than a pejorative.

 

He also calls himself a "deplorable" and an "infidel" (apparently, what he thinks a Muslim would say about him). He's not the sharpest guy out there.

 

"Infidel" now means Christian to many people. Most of the returning soldiers around here have"infidel" stickers on their trucks and some have "infidel" tattoos. Word meanings evolve.

 

I understand that. I was simply pointing out that he calls himself several different things. He's a "Word of Faith" charismatic who doesn't know much about the Bible or the call of Jesus. He's also not a veteran.

And "alt-right", at least to me, is not a slur or derogatory term. Just a loose category of people of widely varying perspectives that gravitate toward the Alex Jones and Breitbart conspiracy views. I usually strongly disagree with their conclusions, but I understand and empathize with many of their concerns.

 

They have been viewed as subhuman for a long time since as I described. How about your view? Are blacks inferior to whites?

 

My honest view. My race, Creek/Cherokee Native American, is the superior race. That's known as "Native pride." The reason I believe that is that we are an extremely mixed race of people. Our DNA is extremely diverse. I believe the more pure a race is, the weaker it is genetically.

 

My family is also creek/cherokee

 

Were relatives. Maybe that's why I like you.

 

Yes quite a few of them.